You thought I meant aura when I said hellfire, but aura stuns the opponent when hit.
You said, "Hellfire" and I thought, this guy couldn't possibly be saying that he thinks a 27f start up move that is -1 on hit could possibly be a POSITIVE trade for Scorpion with Sektor's Up Missiles. Maybe he meant Flame Aura, heaps of people get the name mixed up? Hence why I said exactly this, copy pasted
"I'm going to assume you meant Scorp's Flame Aura, as his move "Hellfire" literally leaves you negative on HIT?"
Hellfire I was referring to on trade, literally at the exact same time Sektor won't be guaranteed to get a free combo, not everyone's trade is the same on hit.
Well, that's factually incorrect, tried tested and proven incorrect, and you need to STOP positing misinformation simply because you refuse to lab
Because it's not wrong and you're just coming off as a pretentious elitist, I don't care about "frame numbers" because for one people on here debates about this move being this amount of frames, then next day someone else claims that's wrong and posts their own. I just go by simplicity, what's safe, what's not, can/can't be countered, I don't care about technical bs that's constantly being debated on here regarding individual frames of moves.
thats great, and as such your refusal to actually lab/learn things means you are CONSTANTLY posting untested stuff as though its factual, and unsurprising you are constantly getting it wrong. It's not elitism - there is simply no place for this in competitive discussion and you need to stop arguing it, there is no two ways about it, whatever your reasoning for it, you are just unleashing a constant stream of misinformation upon TYM, people who don't know any better than to listen to you are damaged by this and people who do know just have their time wasted. Just take half a minute out, jump in the lab, test if what you are saying is even remotely accurate, then come back and post it on TYM
Secondly, again though I'm not wrong you're wrong because you're assuming the wrong thing for one. I said hellfire, you say "aura" lol.
Yeah you can keep bringing this up but it just makes you look even worse
Because I've spent a lot of time with the game, I just told you I'll say it again, hellfire on trade with Sektor's shower rockets few times during a match I've played I didn't get free teleport into damage.
Then a.) you misplayed and missed a LARGE window to input the teleport no matter how you trade, and b.) this was never your original statement, we werent arguing whether you get full combo on hit for trade you were saying word for word
"if you trade with someone like say sub-zero or scorp's hellfire you're stunned just as long if not longer actually". This is undoubtedly wrong, even if you aren't always guaranteed a Teleport (which once again you defintely are, as I will prove shortly).
The only reasonable explanation is lag spikes, given the new, improved netcode is million times better. Yes, I know what I saw as in you know actual gameplay?
Oh so because you missed a substantially large window due to "lag" on this new net code (
), that doesn't make it misinformation to say that you are stunned equally as long or longer after trading with a Hellfire, when in reality you at least +38 even at the WORST possible trade time to the frame? It's still misinformation, and someone with your attitude towards the game of refusing to test things because you are "casual", would do well to take it a bit more gracefully when your baseless assumptions are proven wrong by someone who has taken the time out to check.
What are you going by exactly? Do you have vids? proof proving me wrong? Til then please shut up, the fact that your arrogance blinds you to something that's so obvious is kind of sad
Not that it should be necessary for me to make this, as the onus is really on YOU here to spend like 2 minutes in the lab and test it for yourself since you haven't yet, but regardless here is a video showing Scorpion trading Hellfire with Sektor at the latest possible time (after -32 from Takedown), and at the earliest possible time (+5 from blocking a Sektor D1). Any later and Hellfire gets stuffed, any earlier and Rockets get stuffed. Both times have a massive window in between them to full combo punish with Teleport from anywhere on the screen, in the case of the second one I literally have time to backdash (33 frame backdash) and then teabag first, THEN go into the teleport, after trading with EX Hellfire.
You may consider yourself thoroughly proved wrong.
P.S. the irony is real in the last part of your statement.
you're a scorpion player, why are you here in a sektor discussion again?
I don't know, why are you discussing Scorpion in a Sektor discussion? Why are you discussing other characters at all and arguing against it when people call your incorrect statements misinformation, when as you say you haven't even labbed them? Hell why are you even discussing Sektor if you can't be bothered to check the stuff you post about him is right?
Regardless, my obvious answer to your question, is
because I'm also playing Sektor. However, I'd also like to answer that I'm an MKX player in a thread about an MKX character, and not everyone is like you and refuses to level up and learn about how other characters work before posting misinformation on both your own character and theirs.
