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RYX

BIG PUSHER
All of these moves can not have the same application of up rockets. The only move similar is Tremors rock and its useless now.
None of these moves can be done at the end of strings and aimed either close, on the opponent, or behind the opponent.
Only Scorpion minions tracks.
Half of these moves have a bunch of recovery frames to boot.

This move is Tremors uprock but way more plus and as a compensation its mid, you can't really compare it to traditional projectiles the best comparision from this list is Scorp's low minion and when you compare both Sektor's up missiles are so much better.

Appreciate the effort put into the list however.
up rockets are way easier to avoid outright though

Trance, Spear, Soul Ball, Net and Trident all restand for resets and 50/50s
Sub-Zero is complete bullshit when it comes to trading projectiles

I'd argue that Up Rockets is different in purpose than Up Rock. Rockets seem to basically be a vertical version of Ice ball where a projectile trade is an advantage for him, and he otherwise just wants to make you move around so he can try and punish you for it. Tremor is way better at oki (maybe not post-patch, who knows how it's gonna end up), but Sektor's got better long range check
 

ColdSpine

"I wore those colors before you"
anyone seeing a clear pattern here?

Make ridiculous dlc characters > people droole over them > more people buy them because they are cool and broken > making profit > hit them with the nerf bat and pretend that we are fixing the game.


man, i dont even have the apetite to dive into those new characters and learn them inside out like i did with previous dlc because they will be different and probably worthless after couple of months from now after the inevitable nerf patch.
 

MKF30

Fujin and Ermac for MK 11
And up rockets are obviously meant to stun...for a free hit lol several of other moves do this is my point.. People are saying it shouldn't be able to combo off of a trade but the only time it should hit is when someone trades with it lol
I think the main difference is it's not as guranteed or obvious as Ermac's soulball which literally ties you up a few seconds to say "hey I can't move hit me" lol

At least with Sektor you have to move faster. I'm sure if it's a big issue they'll nerf it with enough griping about it you know TYM afterall as you were saying earlier lol.

Personally I will say he doesn't really need the air dash lol but hey I'll take it.

@RYX Good point lol.
 
Lmao!!! That was because I was playing the prepatch version for 4-5 days nonstop before the release, so I was using him in his much better form. The patch nerfed him the hardest out of the Borgs so I was super salty.

I'll admit he's still good, good enough that is. -.-
I assume they made him less capable of just keeping away shooting? Cause hes so friggin good at setting up combos post knockdown and once he has you cornered its fucked. Everytime Ive been beaten by sektor today i thought of you saying he was nerfed ha
 

SaltShaker

In Zoning We Trust
I assume they made him less capable of just keeping away shooting? Cause hes so friggin good at setting up combos post knockdown and once he has you cornered its fucked. Everytime Ive been beaten by sektor today i thought of you saying he was nerfed ha
Lolol! Yup pretty much. Nerfed his zoning in a significant way while making sure he can play a strong MKX setplay game. So he's still strong just a different type of character now. That's just the theme for this game in general though.
 

Undeadjim

Green Lantern Corps.
up rockets are way easier to avoid outright though

Trance, Spear, Soul Ball, Net and Trident all restand for resets and 50/50s
Sub-Zero is complete bullshit when it comes to trading projectiles

I'd argue that Up Rockets is different in purpose than Up Rock. Rockets seem to basically be a vertical version of Ice ball where a projectile trade is an advantage for him, and he otherwise just wants to make you move around so he can try and punish you for it. Tremor is way better at oki (maybe not post-patch, who knows how it's gonna end up), but Sektor's got better long range check
I don't up rockets are easy to avoid given you can place them like you did Tremors. I used that move a ton in neutral to lock people down, there is the added benefit here that up rockets are not +20 at least so you have the option to block more without having to worry about more nonsense.

Tremor uprock could be used to trade previously but I will agree Sektors seems to be designed more for it and less in the way of Oki. Where Tremor got 10% for a trade Sektor has the potential to get 30-40 lol
 
Alright I can understand Tremor players being kinda upset then. But there are people in this thread though saying the Sektor missiles grant too much advantage on hit. I just looked up some other blockable, meterless full screen projectiles that grant advantage on hit just to compare.

Sektor missile +43
Quan trance +46
Scorp spear +56
Scorp minion +69
Ermac soulball +88
Subzero ice ball +114
Triborg's other variants;
Smoke trident +68
Cyrax Net +107

Seems fair to me as it is but maybe i'm missing something?
Not that it really matters cause people get your point, but also D'vorah's wasp grenade that gives you like 6 fucking years to do a combo.

Also can we just wait a couple of weeks and let the dlc rock before they're nerfed until they aren't fun anymore?? See what I did there? :p
 
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9_Lives

Noob
You can also confirm from full screen with f212bb for max damage bnb as well if you dash and buffer the run input before the first dash ends. Hard to keep track of the run meter, but it's super satisfying to land nearly 40% from full screen while your opponent is wondering how on earth you did that without being Sub-Zero.
 

D. R.

Noob
Sektor's up rockets are pretty dumb tbh besides the OP hit advantage. They follow a character's movement at times even though they have already started to comedown. An example of this is doing Shinnok's shoulder charge at max range right after up rocket is out. The rockets will land just behind him one by one as he's moving, "following" him in effect instead of all landing where the first one landed. Also, the move wrecks teleports. With Imposter for example, on a read, two rockets will fall correctly where they should and the last one will completely change sides and follow Shinnok. Couple this with the fact the rockets hit for an insane amount of hit advantage that can be converted into a combo effortlessly (roughly over a second of time to react) and you have one fucked up move for keep out.

But NRS nerfed Tremor. Lmao

I'll post a vid if need be but this shits beyond dumb. The move doesn't work as designed and as such makes him a significant problem to deal. Great job NRS! I may just pick him up!
 

WakeUp DP

GT MK OshTekk.
I'm not touching dlc till we heard about any new patch.

Learning summoner was a pain only to have him nerfed to the ground, not doing that anymore.
 

Apex Kano

Kano Commando main MKX
Not sure why Tremor was nerfed. I always just armor through or tech rolled. I love up rockets its slow and has a huge plus on block. Please dont nerf. Also they mention on stream Friday that Tyler was playing Ketchup and you can armor out of the up rockets. Block the first one and the others will whiff.
 

migosan

MK Philippines / Injustice Philippines
NRS isn't greedy for giving Sektor fans a solid character, people should be happy Tremor even made the cut. Could be worse, you could be a Fujin fan...

I don't believe Sektor's the best in the game, best zoner not a doubt in my mind. NRS please don't touch him.
exactly, without this his whole zoning / defensive game would be non existent since forward rockets can be easily ran into, the run fucntion really changed the game for zoners, it doesn't even break armor and up missiles even in front whiffs on advancing combo strings so i don't really understand all the crying right now and tremor has better superior strings, sektor is a solid defensive zoner not broken, there are a ton of ways to get in or negate the uprocket, i think it's because of the "all offense run at you"mentality of mkx players nowadays that makes them easy prey to uprockets, if you kill this move and you'd be killing zoning / defense all over again.
 
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migosan

MK Philippines / Injustice Philippines
People are acting like this shit is unblockable and will always hit lol
just like what i said to mkf30, it's mostly because people have grown accustomed to the all offense,in your face all day approach of mkx, well mkxl and the recent patch would just like to remind or at least bring a little zoning and defense back in the game. so i hope people would stop crying, it's easy to block and it would whiff if you ran into it, and please learn how to play defense again hahaah. if they would kill it sektor would be exposed and free all day he doesn't have bombs or godlike mixups to begin with compared with his compadres and ex flame isn't safe as we thought it would be
 

WakeUp DP

GT MK OshTekk.
exactly, without this his whole zoning / defensive game would be non existent since forward rockets can be easily ran into, the run fucntion really changed the game for zoners, it doesn't even break armor and up missiles even in front whiffs on advancing combo strings so i don't really understand all the crying right now and tremor has better superior strings, sektor is a solid defensive zoner not broken, there are a ton of ways to get in or negate the uprocket, i think it's because of the "all offense run at you"mentality of mkx players nowadays that makes them easy prey to uprockets, if you kill this move and you'd be killing zoning / defense all over again.
Like honestly I was playing vs all these people using dlc and all they did was run in and start their pressure, they'd do that over and over or jump in even if they keep getting punished for it.

Most have all bnbs and set ups down but 0 fundamentals, it's mind blowing.
 
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WakeUp DP

GT MK OshTekk.
I think Sektor is a good char but has weakness just like any other char.

Take away up missiles and he's done imo. Playing defensive/keep away in MKX is tough and requires much more skills than rushing down.
 

WakeUp DP

GT MK OshTekk.
All of these moves can not have the same application of up rockets. The only move similar is Tremors rock and its useless now.
None of these moves can be done at the end of strings and aimed either close, on the opponent, or behind the opponent.
Only Scorpion minions tracks.
Half of these moves have a bunch of recovery frames to boot.

This move is Tremors uprock but way more plus and as a compensation its mid, you can't really compare it to traditional projectiles the best comparision from this list is Scorp's low minion and when you compare both Sektor's up missiles are so much better.

Appreciate the effort put into the list however.
How Subz Ice ball or Cyrax net? They both let you full screen run and combo them. And this is coming from a GM player... Sektor is fine.
 

WATCHD0G

Noob
just like what i said to mkf30, it's mostly because people have grown accustomed to the all offense,in your face all day approach of mkx, well mkxl and the recent patch would just like to remind or at least bring a little zoning and defense back in the game. so i hope people would stop crying, it's easy to block and it would whiff if you ran into it, and please learn how to play defense again hahaah. if they would kill it sektor would be exposed and free all day he doesn't have bombs or godlike mixups to begin with compared with his compadres and ex flame isn't safe as we thought it would be
exactly i have been in so many situations already that i would have been totally destroyed if not for the rockets
 

migosan

MK Philippines / Injustice Philippines
is move and you'd be killing zoning / defense all over again
Like honestly I was playing vs all these people using dlc and all they did was run in and start their pressure, they'd do that over and over or jump in even if they keep getting punished for it.

Most have all bnbs and set ups down but 0 fundamentals, it's mind blowing.
ikr! like is this what mkx has taught our players lately, run run run mash the shit out of some top tier's godlike strings and wait for the defender to guess wrong, it's about time mkxl changes that even only for a little bit.

i really don't understand all the crying, i've ran sets with my brother and he has no problem dealing with uprocket ender pressure, maybe using smoke and cyrax helped, because they have those really sweet advancing f3 safe sweep which is really low and you can delay it to 2 mids, meanwhile we got a super unsafe bison slide ahaha. smoke obviously has the right tools against sektor like it's mk9 all over again, but yeah anyone can easily deal with uprockets you just have to know when to run and start your punish, hell fast advancing strings would simply do the trick, even front uprockets while tracking would whiff. the hotfix earlier was enough so don't cry for nerfs anymore because one more nerf and sektor would be rendered useless without it.
 
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Eldriken

Guest
Like honestly I was playing vs all these people using dlc and all they did was run in and start their pressure, they'd do that over and over or jump in even if they keep getting punished for it.

Most have all bnbs and set ups down but 0 fundamentals, it's mind blowing.
Yep. Online randoms hear that X character is super OP, they pick it up, start going nuts and still continue to lose against better players because they have no fundamentals.
 

HuttonMD

ADM Riddles
I think the missles should all stay where placed so if my opponent makes a read I'm going for the above missles and teleports they should be rewarded not hit by a single stray missles. Other then that I think they are fine and ppl will adjust