Doombawkz
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So... what?
A top 10 zoner manages it, why can't a top 3 zoner?
So... what?
There isn't a "one frame to unblock", reversals just happen to discount one frame of blockstun. That's probably what you're thinking of. If it's trading with another 6F D1 then you're not doing it fast enough.
You're fucking delusional.
It costs 3 bars of meter for one, so it is fair. Blood god gets huge damage too but he doesnt have to play some counter poking game to maybe get it, and many people argue he still needs help. Most games you won't get the opportunity to use the 3 bar 90% combos in the corner anyway, so in order for the chip spell to have a viable use mid screen he has to sacrifice 12-15% damage to activate it after a trance, a full screen hard knockdown and a guaranteed safe armor spell setup. With this nerf, why the fuck would anyone sacrifice all of that for 5-10% guaranteed extra damage and a small chance to get 10% more in case your opponent is dumb enough to not simply back dash out of the chip spell as soon as the first EX rune leaves Quan minus 1? On top of that, they could even grab you or hit you with an overhead while you're expecting to block their low poke, that's WAY too much risk for too little reward. Do you even know anything about this character?
I'm not understanding your logic. U know chip trap has guaranteed true block string set ups that take like 90% of your life (given u have 3 meters). -1 rune is fine. You have less options now, but its a nerf.. That's the point.
Ah I'm mistaken then.
Quan players dont understand the concept of counter poking, spacing, or anything other than making u guess over and over again. -1 imo doesnt seem bad at all. A lot of plus moves/strings could use a tone down imo. But quan players dont really understand that. Much easier to complain.
It costs meter to make it plus and if the opponent has a bar of meter they can option select armor through the overhead. The only problem with it is that you don't have to spend meter for the second mixup, but that could simply be adjusted by decreasing the cancel advantage on the overhead option.
It really is, because it's not just one block string. It's three, ended in a multi-hitting special, followed by a normal that breaks armor.
Because he does not have any viable armor. I'm telling you if he loses his advantage off the EX rune he will be garbage. You cannot survive solely off zoning in MKX. Kitana has great zoning, great pressure, great wakeups, and the most viable X ray in the game yet many people argue she still needs buffs.
You and I have very different definitions of what the word "needs" means. And don't even try to compare Quan to blood god. Blood god gets his damage after setting up a totem and making a hard read in neutral. Quan gets it after landing a plus on block 50/50 in the corner. And all that shit about eating an overhead in anticipation of a low poke is exactly what the counter poking game is. You do realize you could do a s1 and blow his ass up for going for the overhead. Please learn the basics of the meta before you go around complaining about balance.
Quan chi has the best back backdash , a 6 frame poke , a 5 njp and the best zoning im the entire game hands down. Not only does he not neee an armoured special , he has better defensive options than half the cast.
Stop acting like you can't backdash f2 and b2 after mb flying kick.
lol child, read my post again, I'm telling you it would not be worth the risk to use the chip spell midscreen because it would always be smarter to full combo your opponent into a safe armor spell setup. The chip spell would only ever be useful to close out rounds with 1 bar in the corner. That would be its one and only viable use after this nerf. What you're saying would make sense if there wasn't a much, much better option to go for instead of the chip spell.
Doesnt mean shit because none of that is as valuable for defense as a wakeup is. As a Summoner player once you get knocked down versus a pressure character you are at a huge disadvantage. None of those things help that. The 6f d1 is plus 3 on hit and full combo punishable on block. Stop.
The just use the armor spell it's still an amazing tool that more then keeps him viable. And isn't ex skull +16 on block? Why can't you use that for the hex spell instead of rune.
Quan does have a block button and access to delayed wake ups and tech rolls like everyone else. If you think armor on wake up is the only option for any given scenario like youre making it out to be then I dont know what to tell you. Shit, Id take a top 3 backdash thats invincible on wake up over having to spend meter on armor any day
What are her great wake-ups... An unsafe DP annnd... ..... ..... ......... ........................
Backdashing is about as valuable as anything since most pressure breaks armor anyhow. Anyone knocked down by a pressure characters is at a huge disadvantage.
She has an armored anti airing launcher and a mid hitting armored reversal. She has good stagger strings and her EX fan on block for pressure on top of her float game. Kitana's zoning is great relative to most other characters in the game. Only characters I can think of who benefit more from zoning than her are HQT, Sorcerer and Summoner Quan.
Straw man fallacy, I am not making it out to be that way. I'm stating the fact that having a good armored move is extremely valuable for defense.
So an unsafe DP and an unsafe parry? Her pressure isn't as good as Quan's meterless pressure is. Her zoning is great relative to characters who don't have any tools.
