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Zyphox

What is going on guys, Ya Boi Zyphox here.
If you care so much about him being bad, for the love of God just pick up a different character.

Then when you do the same or worse then you'll have no excuses. Kthxbai
lol you don't even make sense AND you sub tweeted about shit too. i want takeda to be viable, like everyone wants there character to be. also what if i do better with a better character then what? you are acting like im sitting here blaming my losses on takeda and i never did that. for the love of god buff my character!!!
 
I can't say much for the other characters but I have been constantly trying to find tech with kenshi, I'm trying to find that magic piece of tech to make him godlike, I still haven't given up on him, but as of right now, he sucks. I won't suggest anyone go near him until someone figures out that magic tech with him, maybe I will find out, maybe pig will, maybe immortal will, maybe darksyde will, but as of right now it is looking grim, as I said I can only truly speak on behalf of kenshi since I have the most experience with him since he is my main, I am just going off the word of many others for the other characters I listed, I don't know enough about Takeda to say anything about him other than I suspect zyphox may be right, that is a big maybe, my conclusion is there, but it may not be accurate, trust me I want kenshi to have that magic tech to boost him up as much as the next guy, but right now it is looking grim. Hell as I type this I'm in the lab with kenshi trying to find something to make him good
Sento's bite is small in this game :(
 

iMileena

"I will cut a hole in you"
It's ok to complain but chill it's not that serious dude.

I've been using takers lately aslo , & I've been noticing that most of his moseset is punishable , if you know what is Punishable.but my thing is that he wasn't giving amazing range ability for anything, you gotta know how to space & time right (hello footsiez) but imo why would you be that close to the opponent to be able to punish you?
 
I'm really glad I never wanted to make a thread about Mileena being bad. I made posts expressing her faults, but have always said she can still complete.

I never played with ethereal because I thought it was shit. Turns out I found tech that might make it her best variation and give her a chance quite honestly. That;s the beauty of 3 variations. Some are just not that straightforward. But don't 100% rule your character as bad without playying all 3.
 

Branden Delio

PSN: C9-Keiji
I'm really glad I never wanted to make a thread about Mileena being bad. I made posts expressing her faults, but have always said she can still complete.

I never played with ethereal because I thought it was shit. Turns out I found tech that might make it her best variation and give her a chance quite honestly. That;s the beauty of 3 variations. Some are just not that straightforward. But don't 100% rule your character as bad without playying all 3.
He already stated hes been testing all three and even Redraptor said hes tested all three that's 2 takeda mains since day 1 both saying shirai ryu outclasses the rest and this post is about the flaws of said variation soooo lol @ at this post. IMO all takeda mains just play Ronin cus lightsabers zzzhrooom vroom zoom < my lightsaber sound effects.
 
He already stated hes been testing all three and even Redraptor said hes tested all three that's 2 takeda mains since day 1 both saying shirai ryu outclasses the rest and this post is about the flaws of said variation soooo lol @ at this post. IMO all takeda mains just play Ronin cus lightsabers zzzhrooom vroom zoom < my lightsaber sound effects.
Most of us are tired of the constant threads about how many flaws their character has.
Either drop them, or pick up a top tier character. It's that simple.
 

Branden Delio

PSN: C9-Keiji
Most of us are tired of the constant threads about how many flaws their character has.
Either drop them, or pick up a top tier character. It's that simple.
That's a simple solution yes but all this thread was supposed to be is @Zyphox sharing his insight about the characters flaws and asking the community if they had any ideas for solutions so his character isn't just constantly blown up in the offline scene. Instead everyone on here takes it as him crying for buffs/nerfs and takes it as him bitching constantly instead of just trying to help out a fellow Fighting Game player in his mission to find something maybe he has overlooked to make his main viable cus lets be real no one really wants to main someone new if theyre heart is set on someone and has been using them since day 1.
 
That's a simple solution yes but all this thread was supposed to be is @Zyphox sharing his insight about the characters flaws and asking the community if they had any ideas for solutions so his character isn't just constantly blown up in the offline scene. Instead everyone on here takes it as him crying for buffs/nerfs and takes it as him bitching constantly instead of just trying to help out a fellow Fighting Game player in his mission to find something maybe he has overlooked to make his main viable cus lets be real no one really wants to main someone new if theyre heart is set on someone and has been using them since day 1.
If you truly want to win, you'd drop him and not waste your time with "low tier" characters.

Not everyone can be top tier. Every fighting game has to have characters at the bottom of the list. We don't know when, and IF, said characters will be buffed or nerfed. I know Zyphox is planning on competing a lot, and if he truly feels Takeda (at his current state), will hold him back, then his best bet is to switch mains.
 

Branden Delio

PSN: C9-Keiji
If you truly want to win, you'd drop him and not waste your time with "low tier" characters.

Not everyone can be top tier. Every fighting game has to have characters at the bottom of the list. We don't know when, and IF, said characters will be buffed or nerfed. I know Zyphox is planning on competing a lot, and if he truly feels Takeda (at his current state), will hold him back, then his best bet is to switch mains.
I agree and if no tech is found in any variation before major tournaments he plans on attending he will have to put Takeda on the back burner for now until buffs come along or bite the bullet and try his best with his "low tier" character. This still doesn't change the fact that this post is to encourage the community to flesh out some tech with the character and hopefully come across something that will make him much more viable in his current state. Hence why unless your a Takeda main or someone with extensive game knowledge you shouldn't be commenting or giving any opinions in this thread just to try to blow him up. This thread should be filled with more suggestions and solutions and less immature comments and pointless uneducated replies.
 

Alright RyRy

Florida Kombat
@Zyphox beat Tom Brady, Takeda is not as bad as you make him to be. Please close this thread.

you are a good player like I stated before, you will find away around his weakness and move on.
 
Takedas armored wake ups are to slow. Once they have you in the corner you can not wake up even with armor since there are to many start up frames. Takeda is definitely broken.
 
I agree and if no tech is found in any variation before major tournaments he plans on attending he will have to put Takeda on the back burner for now until buffs come along or bite the bullet and try his best with his "low tier" character. This still doesn't change the fact that this post is to encourage the community to flesh out some tech with the character and hopefully come across something that will make him much more viable in his current state. Hence why unless your a Takeda main or someone with extensive game knowledge you shouldn't be commenting or giving any opinions in this thread just to try to blow him up. This thread should be filled with more suggestions and solutions and less immature comments and pointless uneducated replies.
I'm playing a "low tier" character , Mileena, as well. I know the struggles. I find it hard to believe it's "encouraging" when he opens up the second sentence with "IF YOU DON'T PLAY TAKEDA THEN STFU!!!"

Anyways, instead of making threads about Mileena being an awful character, I'm taking her to the lab where I already found tech that will help her. There's ways to go about explaining your character's faults without sounding like your character is complete shit and nothing he has can save him. If you really believe that then drop it. Now's everyone's chance to hop off these low tier characters and pick one of the current strong ones.

I'm not trying to blow him up, Zyphox is my friend, but like i said, most of us are really tired with threads and threads asking for buffs or saying how bad their characters are. etc.
 

Alright RyRy

Florida Kombat
I'm playing a "low tier" character , Mileena, as well. I know the struggles. I find it hard to believe it's "encouraging" when he opens up the second sentence with "IF YOU DON'T PLAY TAKEDA THEN STFU!!!"

Anyways, instead of making threads about Mileena being an awful character, I'm taking her to the lab where I already found tech that will help her. There's ways to go about explaining your character's faults without sounding like your character is complete shit and nothing he has can save him. If you really believe that then drop it. Now's everyone's chance to hop off these low tier characters and pick one of the current strong ones.

I'm not trying to blow him up, Zyphox is my friend, but like i said, most of us are really tired with threads and threads asking for buffs or saying how bad their characters are. etc.


Could not of said it better my self.
 

Branden Delio

PSN: C9-Keiji
I'm playing a "low tier" character , Mileena, as well. I know the struggles. I find it hard to believe it's "encouraging" when he opens up the second sentence with "IF YOU DON'T PLAY TAKEDA THEN STFU!!!"

Anyways, instead of making threads about Mileena being an awful character, I'm taking her to the lab where I already found tech that will help her. There's ways to go about explaining your character's faults without sounding like your character is complete shit and nothing he has can save him. If you really believe that then drop it. Now's everyone's chance to hop off these low tier characters and pick one of the current strong ones.

I'm not trying to blow him up, Zyphox is my friend, but like i said, most of us are really tired with threads and threads asking for buffs or saying how bad their characters are. etc.
I mean its true tho "IF YOU DON'T PLAY TAKEDA THEN STFU!!!" because you shouldn't be making comments about a character if you don't know the character itself that is common sense id think and in his last post he had a lot of trolls so I don't blame him for making that statement or being frustrated with TYM in general. I know Mileena isn't the best character and good for you for labbing it up and finding things to make her good but asking the community for maybe other knowledge or suggestions he hasn't found yet is that not another way of labbing per say?

EDIT: Oh and if your tired of threads like this or have such a problem with it you don't have to read it or even be in the thread itself, remove yourself if you find it such an issue that he is asking the community for suggestions or advice that will make his character viable, just because he hasn't found options in the lab doenst mean he isn't labbing im sure hes been in the lab a fuck ton. Again you just keep saying drop the character lol you didn't drop yours just cus it was bad did you? No you labbed it up and are sticking to your guns maybe hed like to do the same but instead of only labbing hes labbing while asking others if they have found anything to solve said flaws stated in this thread. Stop acting like hes just bitching and moaning when that isn't his intent what so ever and if it was I wouldn't be defending his end goal of this thread.

EDIT EDIT: Ok looking back in the thread and at the OP it does kind of sound like he is just bitching more so than asking for any kind of help so maybe he should of went about this thread a little differently but it is annoying to see hella people comment in here and just say pointless shit like pick another character or stfu because that's what a community is for sharing ideas helping each other out I just wish I saw more constructive talk in this thread.
 
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I mean its true tho "IF YOU DON'T PLAY TAKEDA THEN STFU!!!" because you shouldn't be making comments about a character if you don't know the character itself that is common sense id think and in his last post he had a lot of trolls so I don't blame him for making that statement or being frustrated with TYM in general. I know Mileena isn't the best character and good for you for labbing it up and finding things to make her good but asking the community for maybe other knowledge or suggestions he hasn't found yet is that not another way of labbing per say?

EDIT: Oh and if your tired of threads like this or have such a problem with it you don't have to read it or even be in the thread itself, remove yourself if you find it such an issue that he is asking the community for suggestions or advice that will make his character viable, just because he hasn't found options in the lab doenst mean he isn't labbing im sure hes been in the lab a fuck ton. Again you just keep saying drop the character lol you didn't drop yours just cus it was bad did you? No you labbed it up and are sticking to your guns maybe hed like to do the same but instead of only labbing hes labbing while asking others if they have found anything to solve said flaws stated in this thread. Stop acting like hes just bitching and moaning when that isn't his intent what so ever and if it was I wouldn't be defending his end goal of this thread.
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Alright RyRy

Florida Kombat
I mean its true tho "IF YOU DON'T PLAY TAKEDA THEN STFU!!!" because you shouldn't be making comments about a character if you don't know the character itself that is common sense id think and in his last post he had a lot of trolls so I don't blame him for making that statement or being frustrated with TYM in general. I know Mileena isn't the best character and good for you for labbing it up and finding things to make her good but asking the community for maybe other knowledge or suggestions he hasn't found yet is that not another way of labbing per say?

EDIT: Oh and if your tired of threads like this or have such a problem with it you don't have to read it or even be in the thread itself, remove yourself if you find it such an issue that he is asking the community for suggestions or advice that will make his character viable, just because he hasn't found options in the lab doenst mean he isn't labbing im sure hes been in the lab a fuck ton. Again you just keep saying drop the character lol you didn't drop yours just cus it was bad did you? No you labbed it up and are sticking to your guns maybe hed like to do the same but instead of only labbing hes labbing while asking others if they have found anything to solve said flaws stated in this thread. Stop acting like hes just bitching and moaning when that isn't his intent what so ever and if it was I wouldn't be defending his end goal of this thread.
So if I make a thread about how many holes Goro has in his game, and this happens with every single character in this game, that wouldn't get annoying to you yet.

This game hasn't been out for a month yet. We haven't even had a "Balance Patch" yet. So people just need to chill out and enjoy the game for what it is. Maybe suggest buffs / nerfs, but not making threads like "Oh my character isn't viable please buff" is the stupidest thing ever so early in the games life.

For example. I really wanted to main Goro the moment I saw him, but to me he isn't that good, instead of me bitching and making threads about my character, I moved on to a different one. Simple as that.

To the people on TYM CHILL THE FUCK OUT and let the game breath for a while and make NRS decide what needs nerfs / buffs. They watch all of the streams, they have a very good idea on what is going on with each character.
 

SidTheHaze

25th place Tempest Lao
I think its funny that we're calling characters bad only 3 weeks after the game came out. Honestly it looks like zyphox is setting up pop offs for when he beats *top player* using *obviously good character* and then he can be like *my character is bad and you still lost 420noscopeswagblazeitfaggit"
 

Branden Delio

PSN: C9-Keiji
So if I make a thread about how many holes Goro has in his game, and this happens with every single character in this game, that wouldn't get annoying to you yet.

This game hasn't been out for a month yet. We haven't even had a "Balance Patch" yet. So people just need to chill out and enjoy the game for what it is. Maybe suggest buffs / nerfs, but not making threads like "Oh my character isn't viable please buff" is the stupidest thing ever so early in the games life.

For example. I really wanted to main Goro the moment I saw him, but to me he isn't that good, instead of me bitching and making threads about my character, I moved on to a different one. Simple as that.

To the people on TYM CHILL THE FUCK OUT and let the game breath for a while and make NRS decide what needs nerfs / buffs. They watch all of the streams, they have a very good idea on what is going on with each character.
Nah it wouldn't annoy me im only in this thread because its hella entertaining but it doesn't bother me per say lol I could give 2 fucks less about Takeda or how bad he is cus I don't play him make all the threads you want ill be reading those too because of how entertaining threads like this are. I just wish when people made threads like this they did it in a more correct/suggestive way rather than how he kind of went about it but on the other side of that I wish more people gave more constructive feedback rather than all the pointless immature comments that are present in threads like this.
 

GuerillaTactix

#bufftakeda
If people start jumping and armoring through kunai that is great for you, because you can read it the next time and punish them. Or you can do EX kunai which eats armor.

F33 is also a pretty fast normal iirc. He has problems for sure but I wouldnt put him in the realm of kenshi/kitana just yet.
Excuse me sir.. What is this F33 you speak of? lmao!
 

GuerillaTactix

#bufftakeda
Lol as a takeda main I feel this thread. People who actually play fighting games will understand this thread. The problem with Takeda is he is too slow and has almost no good moves almost giving him the feel that he is unplayable. Everything is unnecessarily negative, no advantage on anything, no "real" mix up game cause nothing is a true blockstring and is negative for no reason. He is so limited it's annoying. Anyone who is losing to takeda and crying cause "he is unfair" is bad or dose not know the MU. How and why are you getting hit with slow ass 24frame overheads that are -16, -21 on block and -10, -7 on hit. The 3rd overhead is -22 and can be backdashed because its a 29frame overhead l! The low kunai almost dose nothing cause you can armor reversal everything. Takeda can not touch you from full screen unless he throws out a raw teleport or kunia witch is 31frames and has to travel full scree! He almost can not punish most of the bs in the game do to his shit slow normals, you can jump all his shit and punish, meter build is trash, and he only has like 2 plus moves bht when all your normals are so slow whats the point. I moved on and picked up kano, quan, and a lil dvora but Takeda is the fun character I want to play. I can be people all day who don't know the MU but after I break it down they all say the same thing. "what is the point of playing this character?". If you are losing to takeda and crying about it you should learn the MU, or go pick him up so you can see how bad he is and how frustrating it is to not be able to use any of your moves because he is so negative on everything.

He is the perfect online character though lol
Exactly.. Well said. lol!