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Well, you're right in a way. Wasn't Sub0 in MK9 low tier? He still managed to place top 8 due to one fellowOh god here goes the Subz is still op cause he won a tournament bullshit.
Well, you're right in a way. Wasn't Sub0 in MK9 low tier? He still managed to place top 8 due to one fellowOh god here goes the Subz is still op cause he won a tournament bullshit.
That's my point. The char is still incomplete. One dood winning a tournament doesn't change that.Well, you're right in a way. Wasn't Sub0 in MK9 low tier? He still managed to place top 8 due to one fellow
I think you're wrong to dismiss his insight. What he says, he believes to be 100% truth when he says it. He's not a downplayer or someone that speaks with an outside agenda. As his insight progresses, his opinions on things change.Tom is just an attention seeker and spoiled man child. I don't even pay attention to his bullshit anymore.
He sure wasn't reasonable when I tried to help him get more damage with better setups. I even made a comparison video for it. Instead he became enraged and brushed me off on his stream.I think you're wrong to dismiss his insight. What he says, he believes to be 100% truth when he says it. He's not a downplayer or someone that speaks with an outside agenda. As his insight progresses, his opinions on things change.
My guess is that he has figured out some new aspects to SZ's game, altering his mental picture of him - thusly changing his tune publicly about the character. I don't think he puts himself center. He talks about the game the way he sees it and he's willing to reason others through his thought process - if you're willing to read or listen.
He's passionate and that tends to alienate those who disagree, but you would be a fool to dismiss his insight.
Those weren't better set ups. The F12 knockdown will occasionally cause the clone to not come out based on the breathing hit box. The only way to ensure that it always comes it is to either take a step back first(which takes the option of the forward throw into clone off the table as well as less advantage), or delay when you do the clone(which also gives you less advantage).He sure wasn't reasonable when I tried to help him get more damage with better setups. I even made a comparison video for it. Instead he became enraged and brushed me off on his stream.
I must have missed that.He sure wasn't reasonable when I tried to help him get more damage with better setups. I even made a comparison video for it. Instead he became enraged and brushed me off on his stream.
Why are people predicting nerfs? Paolo is known for letting dirty shit rock.So when's the nerf coming?
He landed F12xxKlone 24 times, 5 missed because he missed the F12, 1 missed because of the Klone cancel. On females it is harder to do but on males the NJP, FJP, FJP, F12xxKlone is damn near perfect if practiced. Come on now doesn't Madzin using this over and over to win this tournament say something? Putting the Klone closer gives them less chance to do a directional or even get their specials. At the end Kung Lao tried to jump and immediately got frozen. He consistently grabbed Quan Chi into the Klone off the F12 setup. Madzin also did the higher damage combos ending with the opponent being dead sooner. You used to play very aggressive when the game launched. If you could add that back to your more reserved style you will basically be unbeatable.Those weren't better set ups. The F12 knockdown will occasionally cause the clone to not come out based on the breathing hit box. The only way to ensure that it always comes it is to either take a step back first(which takes the option of the forward throw into clone off the table as well as less advantage), or delay when you do the clone(which also gives you less advantage).
In a 2 out of 3 I am not willing to sacrifice my advantage just to be sure in that crucial moment I don't get what I want nor am I willing to sacrifice ANY of my advantage in order to make sure it always comes out.
I think this is where me and the SZ community part ways. You guys have each other, I'll just be here on my own.On females it is harder to do but on males the NJP, FJP, FJP, F12xxKlone is damn near perfect if practiced. Come on now doesn't Madzin using this over and over to win this tournament say something? Putting the Klone closer gives them less chance to do a directional or even get their specials. He consistently grabbed Quan Chi into the Klone off the F12 setup. Madzin also did the higher damage combos ending with the opponent being dead sooner. You used to play very aggressive when the game launched. If you could add that back to your more reserved style you will basically be unbeatable.
On mk9 the community was very young. Where the fuck is your logic ? Sub is a good character.Didnt Reo place high with Cyber Subz and Mileena back in MK9? I don't follow your logic.
I've literally never once seen someone say Sub-Zero is bottom 5. You need to step your sarcastic posting up a notch cause this one doesn't even make sense?Wait but isn't the character bottom 5?
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They're true professionals who are currently creating the blueprint for commentary on competitive gaming.
I lucked my way to winners in gf lol. He had me.Wow. I thought for sure when foxy won winners that he would take the tournament. Madzin deserves a tym medal if he's in here. He must've played perfect.
Nobody said he wasn't. Def not OP like most claimed back on april. The point is that he is an incomplete char and ice clone shouldn't had been nerfed.On mk9 the community was very young. Where the fuck is your logic ? Sub is a good character.
Subzero is probably the most balanced character with EB and Jax imo. A too well complete character is good for the nerfs (mmh, kabal, etc). He needs weaknesses.Nobody said he wasn't. Def not OP like most claimed back on april. The point is that he is an incomplete char and ice clone shouldn't had been nerfed.
Inconsistent ice clone cancels isn't a weakness lol. And attacks shouldn't go through it like if it wasn't there.Subzero is probably the most balanced character with EB and Jax imo. A too well complete character is good for the nerfs (mmh, kabal, etc). He needs weaknesses.
The top 5 will probably be nerf, and the bottom buff, then the game will be balanced. They shouldn't do shit with midtier except hotfix.
Subzero is popular in tournament while some other don't even appear.
Lolll this is why you guys live in the salt report. Whiniest community in the game, yet subzero has won 2 big tournaments . No one is saying he is op but the problem isn't Sub-zero, it's the Sub-zero community.That's my point. The char is still incomplete. One dood winning a tournament doesn't change that.
But in this community if a char places high or wins then its top tier or OP.