General/Other - Kung Lao Kung Lao General Discussion

[Invincible Salads]

I can when I get off work in an hour and a half

im on ps4. if theres any setups or something that im missing i'd be happy to learn them.

 

[GS_Zodiac]

im on ps4. if theres any setups or something that im missing i'd be happy to learn them.

If you give me like an hour, I can hop on and play

 

[Banazama]

So is B321 a Hard Knockdown, or just untechable?

Or is it neither and I'm just failing?

Little late to answer, but the AI will never roll after a B321 in practice mode. Pretty sure it's untechable.

 

[GS_Zodiac]

Quick question, if I'm in the midscreen game and playing footsies, is f2 the only thing I have to whiff punish?

Edit: Question 2 can you punish ice clone or ex ice clone with footdive or j.2?

 

[I GOT HANDS]

Little late to answer, but the AI will never roll after a B321 in practice mode. Pretty sure it's untechable.

Yeah, I'm feeling like this is the case, it's just Untechable Knockdown as far as I can tell

 

[Vigilante24]

Quick question, if I'm in the midscreen game and playing footsies, is f2 the only thing I have to whiff punish?

It is your best whiff punisher since it is 11 frames and advances forward but you can also whiff punish with B22 as well. Its slow on startup so they will have needed to really screw up to get whiff punished by a B22.

Edit: Question 2 can you punish ice clone or ex ice clone with footdive or j.2?

From my experience no. Ive only been able to punish with EX Spin in Buzzsaw or Hat Trick. In Hat Trick, you can always EX Hat Toss (Hatarang) to check them if you are late on your reactions and it will go through the clone and they usually respect the hat coming back if they actually know what this move does.

 

[GS_Zodiac]

Does anyone have a good combo off of standing 1 or 2 when anti airing? Standing 1 makes them floaty and is easy to confirm off of, but I feel like 2 has a longer and bigger hitbox making it easier to anti air from a range that isn't right next to you. Either way range isn't very big, but 2 definitely anti airs from further away. Right now depending on the situation I use 1(if they're really close) and 2(if they jumping in or I catch them trying to neutral j.2 at the beginning of a match) into f21xxdb1, b32xxmbdf1, j2, grab and I think it's like 29 or 30% Is there a better way to be anti airing and following up on it?

 

[Invincible Salads]

If you give me like an hour, I can hop on and play

whats ur psn?


also btw, can u actually do a delayed wake up attack? or does delaying the wake up make it so wake up attacks are impossible.

 

[NapalmCL]

whats ur psn?


also btw, can u actually do a delayed wake up attack? or does delaying the wake up make it so wake up attacks are impossible.

If you delay your wake up you cant do a wake up attack. You have to just get up.

 

[ShinLad]

Anyone got any suggestions on dealing with Commando Kano as tempest Lao? For some reason if Kano crouch blocks the last hit of the 112124 string wiffs randomly and he gets a free uppercut or d1 so that string is unreliable. b321 ex hat spin if he has meter he now can just do ex upball or ex cmd grab to armor through. So along with his really good footsy game i'm really confused on how the heck i'm supposed to approach this matchup. Not to mention his choke normal being safe on block is ridiculous. It gets really hard to d1 him out of any of his blocked strings, especially with the threat of safe ex upball.

Also which kick is everyone using to get in with Lao is it jump 3 or 4 or does it not matter?

 

[GS_Zodiac]

whats ur psn?
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Psn: wingedhiro

 

[Vigilante24]

Gotta question. What do you guys normally follow up with after a blocked EX Low Hat in Buzzsaw since its plus, but not as plus as Tempest or Hat Trick?

 

[Big Pampering]

Gotta question. What do you guys normally follow up with after a blocked EX Low Hat in Buzzsaw since its plus, but not as plus as Tempest or Hat Trick?

F2 or try to bait something. +4 doesn't guarantee anything.

 

[Invincible Salads]

Psn: wingedhiro

k, cool

 

[Invincible Salads]

Anyone got any suggestions on dealing with Commando Kano as tempest Lao? For some reason if Kano crouch blocks the last hit of the 112124 string wiffs randomly and he gets a free uppercut or d1 so that string is unreliable. b321 ex hat spin if he has meter he now can just do ex upball or ex cmd grab to armor through. So along with his really good footsy game i'm really confused on how the heck i'm supposed to approach this matchup. Not to mention his choke normal being safe on block is ridiculous. It gets really hard to d1 him out of any of his blocked strings, especially with the threat of safe ex upball.

Also which kick is everyone using to get in with Lao is it jump 3 or 4 or does it not matter?

im not very familiar with the kano matchup either and wouldnt mind learning it.

 

[just_2swift]

F2 or try to bait something. +4 doesn't guarantee anything.

Do you know why his 11214 the 4 part ppl are ducking it it's very frustrating. This happening to you?

 

[Big Pampering]

Do you know why his 11214 the 4 part ppl are ducking it it's very frustrating. This happening to you?

I posted this in the tempest +12 thread. Also in case you havent noticed the last hit of 11212 also whiffs sometimes but ppl havent noticed because it is hard to see.

 

[just_2swift]

I posted this in the tempest +12 thread. Also in case you havent noticed the last hit of 11212 also whiffs sometimes but ppl havent noticed because it is hard to see.

I see it now. I can't remember it doing this before the patch it never happened to me till now

 

[Big Pampering]

I see it now. I can't remember it doing this before the patch it never happened to me till now

The string has been like that since day 1

 

[just_2swift]

When is that anti air buff going to happen? Tired of getting jump kicked out of my normal spin on a read

 

[Big Pampering]

When is that anti air buff going to happen? Tired of getting jump kicked out of my normal spin on a read

It's time you start using ex spin.

 

[Vigilante24]

Lol a Kung Lao player asking for anti-air buffs. Bruh... do you not ex spin or somethin?

 

[just_2swift]

Lol a Kung Lao player asking for anti-air buffs. Bruh... do you not ex spin or somethin?

Funny you mentioned ex spin had a Tanya kicked me out of that too. I said nothing to the tune of buffing Laos anti air abilities. A universal anti air buff was the route I was going with my post.

 

[boy9-1]

buzzsaw>tempest

 

[I GOT HANDS]

I'm not a Lao only player but I am a stick player and changing was tough as hell. I can give you my layout:

1 Block 2 Interact
3 Throw 4 Flip Stance

Or

X RT Y RB
A LB B LT

I like to keep block in a good position to keep it pressed while being able to MB everything easily (was the toughest thing to get with other placements) I don't really use interact or flip stance so my main six are all right there. I know a few other people who run this setup or something similar (Just switching the block and throw buttons). Hope it helps!

That's a really interesting button layout haha. I use this:
1 2 RT LT
3 4 RB LB

I don't even use the LB or RB at all, just use 1+2 or 1+3 and that way I pretty much don't have to move at all and don't have to use the pinky or anything. If that set up you have is working for you though good for you. Playing on stick is weird at first but you'll love it soon enough trust me.

Good stuff here, this sort of talk is hard to find.

Do either of you have any recommendations for which stick to buy/which sticks avoid, for playing MKX on PC? Specifically, playing as Lao.