RM NoBrows
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It's ok to argue one way or the other on this, but to do so we need to stop spreading misinformation. 15 frames is NOT even remotely react able. A 1-2 frame link is NOT easy to block and go into the training mode and figure out, I'm guessing you guys are talking about QCs regular vortex but don't have the knowledge here. Or you are just downplaying. but I'll give the benefit of the doubt here.
Record yourself doing this http://testyourmight.com/threads/vs-quan-chi-bat-vortex-training.54840/. Practice a little till you can get a TINY link with QC, then record yourself blocking it 5/5 times without resetting. Then YOU can say that this is easy to block, because as it stands everyone else is dealing with reality and you guys are just saying "but the science is wrong because I said so!". Then we can address the fact that even being able to learn a tiny block link means fuck all when your opponent can literally change the timing to suit his needs.
I'm all for a good debate with good arguments on both sides. But this sort of stuff, like "you can react to 15 frame start ups!" and "2 frame block links that have randomized timing are easy!" is just doing exactly what this thread is talking about... DOWNPLAYING. There is no other word for it, because the lies are blatant lol.
Okay damn I said that you can react to it I never said that I could block his 50/50s 10 out of ten times. People are overreacting to this. It isn't easy to react to I should've never said that it's very reactable that was foolish of me. But just because you can't react to something 10/10 times doesnt deem it not reactable at all. I guarantee there's not many people that can react to the characters who have 50 50s 10 out of 10 times. Let's take sib zero for instance. Now idk his frame data of his low and OH starter, but that overhead is definitely reactable. Does that mean I'll block his 50 50s 10 out of 10 times? No. Is anyone who is putting there input in this thread talking about this specific topic accounting for human error? So you're telling me that there's absolutely no one who can react to a 15 frame move? No one at all? Cuz guess what it only takes one person to be able to react to it to validate it reactable. And back to the topic of THIS variation being broken or not. Wonder Chef won the VERY FIRST tournament with Summoner quan, and that's the only one that anyone has won with summoner quan. The meta has evolved alot since then. Outside of that, Michaelangelo has placed top 8 at a handful of majors. As of late, more people have been placing higher with SORCERER quan. Ketchup made top 8 with SORCERER quan at evo. To my knowledge, since then no one has placed top 8 at a major since then with summoner quan. All of quam chis variation s are good. But summoner quan is NOT broken. He's very good yes, but like I said before there's other stuff in this game people have that is better than what summoner quan can do.Also, if you dedicate yourself to blocking low than high, you will get blown up by b3 everytime