Question - Quan Chi Does Quan Chi really need a true armored wake up attack?

[exflyingbooty]

Oh I'm very cereal my friend.

In a game heavy dominated by rush down, safe 50/50, vortex big damage combos etc zoning/defensive chars need better defensive tools in order to deal with all the auto pilot scrubbyness lol.

your character has said 50/50s /vortex and zoning
I've been hit with standing resets from quan chi
Also your character has the best zoning game in the game and is able to control space extremely well at all times
Your character also builds a stupid amount of meter from said zoning

Maybe it's ok that his wake up is bad? Since he literally has everything else and then some

 

[WakeUp DP]

Play warlock then

I dont like it. I only play sorcerer not even the supposted top tier summoner.

 

[WakeUp DP]

In the words of Shinnok himself:

You are a fool.

Is Shinnok better than Quan?

 

[WakeUp DP]

your character has said 50/50s /vortex and zoning
I've been hit with standing resets from quan chi
Also your character has the best zoning game in the game and is able to control space extremely well at all times
Your character also builds a stupid amount of meter from said zoning

Maybe it's ok that his wake up is bad? Since he literally has everything else and then some

Well it's already -80 and doesnt lead to full combos so why not?

 

[ShaolinGunFu]

Quan is top 3 why the fuck would he need buffs

Lets discuss what nerfs he deserves

 

[WakeUp DP]

Quan is top 3 why the fuck would he need buffs

Lets discuss what nerfs he deserves

I'm not asking or saying he isn't top tier. Read the OP before posting pls.

 

[ShaolinGunFu]

I only read the op

 

[Yoaks]

Sure why not? Mileena won't give a fuck.

 

[Tokiwartoothxdk]

This thread needs more shitposting

 

[GLoRToR]

I like this poll. We need more like this, it completely defeats the point of discussion.

No, I don't think Quan needs any buffs or nerfs. He's fine.

 

[ShaolinGunFu]

the one with the skeleton hands, give that guy some stuff, hes alright- the other two are OP because sometimes I lose to them and that means they are broken chars

 

[ColdSpine]

So let me get this straight

You are annoyed because your getting pressured while your totally ok with raping people in your vortex?

Dat logic ..

 

[Nonameformedude]

I don't think wake up is the place armored moves are most important, it's armoring through pressure(and as an option in neutral). Is his vortex so strong that he shouldn't have an armored option out of pressure like every other character in the game has? I'm not saying he needs it, but it just makes sense with the flow of the game that he should have a viable armored option.

 

[SneakyTortoise]

I feel like this thread violated me

 

[exflyingbooty]

Let's just fucking making puggles have one fucking hit of armor while we're at it, jfc

 

[xInfra Deadx]

I feel like this thread violated me

Here's something that's more violating...

http://testyourmight.com/threads/only-scrubs-and-faggs-use-jade-sheeva-and-kano.23928/
http://testyourmight.com/threads/nrs-is-shitty-and-injustice-wont-be-any-different.23924/

The twist? The OP made those threads.

 

[Predannok]

Let's just fucking making puggles have one fucking hit of armor while we're at it, jfc

Seems to me uve got ur Ass beaten alot by Quan chi, u make it sound like he is the only character with 50/50's and a vortex. AGAIN: why should Sky Crush be useless when its already full combo punishable by the whole cast with a ridicolous startup of 37 frames. What about Sorcerer?

 

[WakeUp DP]

So let me get this straight

You are annoyed because your getting pressured while your totally ok with raping people in your vortex?

Dat logic ..

I use sorcerer not summoner!

 

[WakeUp DP]

Here's something that's more violating...

http://testyourmight.com/threads/only-scrubs-and-faggs-use-jade-sheeva-and-kano.23928/
http://testyourmight.com/threads/nrs-is-shitty-and-injustice-wont-be-any-different.23924/

The twist? The OP made those threads.

That is the past, when i was emotionally unstable. I'm grown up and much more mature now.

Pls dont be that guy.

 

[WakeUp DP]

Seems to me uve got ur Ass beaten alot by Quan chi, u make it sound like he is the only character with 50/50's and a vortex. AGAIN: why should Sky Crush be useless when its already full combo punishable by the whole cast with a ridicolous startup of 37 frames. What about Sorcerer?

It also doesn't lead to full combos like most armored wake ups in this game.

 

[Predannok]

It also doesn't lead to full combos like most armored wake ups in this game.

Exactly on hit u don't even have enough time to summon a bat or a spell without getting punish.

 

[exflyingbooty]

Seems to me uve got ur Ass beaten alot by Quan chi, u make it sound like he is the only character with 50/50's and a vortex. AGAIN: why should Sky Crush be useless when its already full combo punishable by the whole cast with a ridicolous startup of 37 frames. What about Sorcerer?

I swear to god, why do you people want a character who already places in top 8s at most tournaments constantly to get fucking buffed.

 

[WakeUp DP]

I swear to god, why do you people want a character who already places in top 8s at most tournaments constantly to get fucking buffed.

MK9 Mileena got second at EVO2011 did that make her top tier?
Did she needed a buff here and there?

Dat logic.

 

[Aramonde]

Sky drop is ass in this game. It wasnt that good in MK9 but at least you could control where he landed and it hit if you when through the ground portal! Ive had so many times where i went through the ground portal only to get hit out when i landed by a special move or random whiff attack the opponent threw out. Which is why i did the Drop in the first place to punish!!!

Sorry had to vent. Now as far as wake up goes summoner doesn't need it imo cause of all his other tools. Warlock got portal slam which made the variation from a ok variation to a good variation so he doesn't need it. Sorcerer i dont know because ive played that one the least.

 

[ImmortalSkillit]

Just wanna add, while its great that Warlock got En. Portal Scoop as a advancing low armored wake-up, its just yet another thing that (Quan) Warlock has to keep in mind with meter usage. It costs us a meter to perform the standing reset (En. Portal Stab) and all of his high damage output requires the use of Ex. Rune, which lets not forget that its usually the better option to use anyways since both B2 and B32(4) are unsafe on block by themselves.

Warlock Quan is super duper meter dependent. Add that majority of the cast has unreadable 50/50s (AKA yo ass is guessing) and it makes meter even MORE important, since getting caught in two or three 50/50 options in a round usually means its time to use a Breaker unless you're willing to let the round go. I'm not saying its horrible, nor is he the only one thats this way, but it surely means that even though we "have" a good armored wake up, we still can't just throw it out there without thinking about it.

I'd suggest just playing Warlock like Summoner and Sorcerer for the moment, and get used to blocking on wake up. Quan doesn't need it, BUUUUUUUUT....when you catch someone trying to get all up in those guts with a wake up portal grab, feel free to grin. (also, don't forget to brush the extra swag off of your shoulders after you trance them, Warlock Quan has some free time during that moment.)