General/Other - Takeda Takeda General Discussion Thread

[Phosferrax]

yeah i even tweeted NRS/ tyler, derik like 3 times for this shit and i got nothing.... but they will repost stupid pictures of quitalities.

I will find out. I know that 33 QK is very plus and f12 2+4 is plus as well. Think they're the only ones.

 

[Nostalgialite]

Randomly got an idea for possible set ups

http://gfycat.com/CleanPointlessAmericanrobin - pretty sure storm did the ex kunai and njp in the eu tournament

http://gfycat.com/FearfulHandmadeBittern - I'm sure someone could time this better than I could. I wouldn't expect people do this though since air spear is super punishable. The alternative to this is B21 once you put down the ex kunai's.

http://gfycat.com/IdioticHardtofindGermanshepherd - throw after the set up. Even if they break the throw, they'll eat 12-16%.

Also, If you're gonna do this set up or some other variation of it, I'd try to push the body into the middle just in case of a wake up. If they wake up with armor, the kunai's will knock the person out of armor most likely.

My bad if this is idea has been shared already

 

[aieches]

man reading the mkx comic today is getting me pissed/.. todays comic made takeda look like hes gonna be Luke Skywalker or some shit but in the game he gets treated like hes jar jar

 

[Ravosa]

Randomly got an idea for possible set ups

http://gfycat.com/CleanPointlessAmericanrobin - pretty sure storm did the ex kunai and njp in the eu tournament

http://gfycat.com/FearfulHandmadeBittern - I'm sure someone could time this better than I could. I wouldn't expect people do this though since air spear is super punishable. The alternative to this is B21 once you put down the ex kunai's.

http://gfycat.com/IdioticHardtofindGermanshepherd - throw after the set up. Even if they break the throw, they'll eat 12-16%.

Also, If you're gonna do this set up or some other variation of it, I'd try to push the body into the middle just in case of a wake up. If they wake up with armor, the kunai's will knock the person out of armor most likely.

My bad if this is idea has been shared already

The NJP and grab setups are good. Not sure if I would air spear, that could get blown up. The thing about b21 after the setup; if they know the matchup then they know the timing and how to block it. It's a pretty easy window.

 

[st9rm]

Randomly got an idea for possible set ups

http://gfycat.com/CleanPointlessAmericanrobin - pretty sure storm did the ex kunai and njp in the eu tournament

http://gfycat.com/FearfulHandmadeBittern - I'm sure someone could time this better than I could. I wouldn't expect people do this though since air spear is super punishable. The alternative to this is B21 once you put down the ex kunai's.

http://gfycat.com/IdioticHardtofindGermanshepherd - throw after the set up. Even if they break the throw, they'll eat 12-16%.

Also, If you're gonna do this set up or some other variation of it, I'd try to push the body into the middle just in case of a wake up. If they wake up with armor, the kunai's will knock the person out of armor most likely.

My bad if this is idea has been shared already

these setups are huge part of my gameplan, eventhough i played shit at the tournament

what i've been going for a lot recently, is setting up the ex kunais on a knockdown, and then doing a jump in kick, which will also act as an overhead, but stays active for a lot longer and has a lot less recovery than the b2(1)

the njp tech you showed, works good in the corner (but you have to do it low enough for it to hit as an overhead and not as a mid)

 

[Ravosa]

On the NJP tech im having a hard time having it hit as both an overhead and be a launcher. Any tips? Often the kunais carry them away at the wrong time. Can't get it consistently.

 

[Nostalgialite]

these setups are huge part of my gameplan, eventhough i played shit at the tournament

what i've been going for a lot recently, is setting up the ex kunais on a knockdown, and then doing a jump in kick, which will also act as an overhead, but stays active for a lot longer and has a lot less recovery than the b2(1)

the njp tech you showed, works good in the corner (but you have to do it low enough for it to hit as an overhead and not as a mid)

Yeah making it an overhead that's able to be combo-able after is the hard part about it because of the timing

also, that jump kick after the low kunai gave me an ideas

Icy Slide can hit you though. I tried it with the ex-blast and i should block it as well. Didn't try it with anything else. I'm sure something like Kung Lao's spin could possibly interrupt this.

http://gfycat.com/FixedCloudyHeterodontosaurus

combo idea (minus the b3)

http://gfycat.com/MeanElatedGrassspider

Probably won't work verse the elite players, but randomly got the idea that if you condition someone that the overhead kick is coming, that if you fake it, they'll eat the low and you could combo after. idk lol

 

[AssassiN]

I will find out. I know that 33 QK is very plus and f12 2+4 is plus as well. Think they're the only ones.

As far as I remember, those are the only 2.
But I only used F12 2+4 for that, since using 33 on block will never happen.

F12 2+4 isn't + enough that you can follow up with F12 2+4 guaranteed.
I think F3 might blow up armor attempts but not backdashes. Been a while since I went to the lab with this variation.

 

[st9rm]

Yeah making it an overhead that's able to be combo-able after is the hard part about it because of the timing

also, that jump kick after the low kunai gave me an ideas

Icy Slide can hit you though. I tried it with the ex-blast and i should block it as well. Didn't try it with anything else. I'm sure something like Kung Lao's spin could possibly interrupt this.

http://gfycat.com/FixedCloudyHeterodontosaurus

combo idea (minus the b3)

http://gfycat.com/MeanElatedGrassspider

Probably won't work verse the elite players, but randomly got the idea that if you condition someone that the overhead kick is coming, that if you fake it, they'll eat the low and you could combo after. idk lol

it will catch some of the people of guard (sooner or later )
if they do know about the setup, they will try jumping out, which you can then counter with a quick instant air teleport and continue to full combo punish them for attempting to jump
ex kunais lets you do a hell lot of stuff, i might do a tech video sometime, with all of the setups i've figured out

 

[Phosferrax]

As far as I remember, those are the only 2.
But I only used F12 2+4 for that, since using 33 on block will never happen.

F12 2+4 isn't + enough that you can follow up with F12 2+4 guaranteed.
I think F3 might blow up armor attempts but not backdashes. Been a while since I went to the lab with this variation.

Point blank f12 2+4 is heavily plus, so whilst nothing is guaranteed it shouldn't be too hard to start doing stuff. And I think f3 will blow up backdashes.

 

[AssassiN]

Point blank f12 2+4 is heavily plus, so whilst nothing is guaranteed it shouldn't be too hard to start doing stuff. And I think f3 will blow up backdashes.

It's + but leaves a distance between you and the opponent.
They can still crouch the third hit of F12 2+4 and armor or backdash out, there isn't much Takeda can do about that.

 

[Phosferrax]

It's + but leaves a distance between you and the opponent.
They can still crouch the third hit of F12 2+4 and armor or backdash out, there isn't much Takeda can do about that.

Do you mean the OH or the hit before it?

 

[AssassiN]

Do you mean the OH or the hit before it?

The hit before the overhead.

 

[EMPEROR PRYCE]

Ronin is fine once u get ppl to start respecting your pressure. I prefer SR though.

 

[StealthyMuffin]

I'm pretty sure this hasn't been documented.

Stand blocking F1, releasing block, and getting hit by 2 doesn't allow you to block 2+4.

Crouch blocking F1, releasing block, and getting hit by 2 DOES allow you to block 2+4.

Yup. ANOTHER Takeda bug. This game is starting to seem like a big fucking joke.

 

[EMPEROR PRYCE]

I wouldn't call that so much a bug. More with how the hit stun works between crouching and standing opponents.

I've noticed this, and its not hard to confirm a hit with 2+4 so it doesn't bother me. If it gets fixed tho thatd be cool.

 

[aieches]

watched evo for a few hours off and on today... ive seen/heard at least on Kotal, at lest 4 from the grave GM Subs, a Cyro Sub, a HA jacqui, Kang, few FT, still a FC cage, and the buffed Kenshis, Kitanas, Reptiles , mileenas, and according to Tom Brady all the bone shaper Shinnoks - theres alot , have made it out of pools.

But i have not seen or heard of one notable takeda-

Firstly- has anyone else seen or heard of a takeda player having decent matches on or off stream

and secondly - im finding this a bit depressing






oh and looking at the brackets - theres a person named "The thot whisperer " - i dont know who he mains, but Evo never ceases to amaze me hahaha..

 

[Maevar]

@aieches I've been following (almost) the whole mkx event@evo, but so far I didn't even hear of a Takeda Player.
It's sad, but hey look on the bright side - in MK:XI Takeda might be top char

 

[Nostalgialite]

I watched all of MK on Evo today, and at least on stream, every character was used besides Takeda and Goro. Kind of sucks because I think Takeda is a lot more viable then people think, but no one wants to use him. Characters with flaws were used throughout the tournament, just not takeda ;(. Worst part about it, I enjoy seeing other characters and people doing good with other characters makes me want to use them, but I just end up sticking with Takeda because I'm a character loyalist right now.

I really hope someone surprises with Takeda soon at a tournament or something. Ronin feels like it hasn't even touched the tournament scene, even with its hype to be a good variation, and SR is still good enough to knock a few people off especially with some of the new stuff we're still finding out

 

[st9rm]

@aieches I've been following (almost) the whole mkx event@evo, but so far I didn't even hear of a Takeda Player.
It's sad, but hey look on the bright side - in MK:XI Takeda might be top char

I watched all of MK on Evo today, and at least on stream, every character was used besides Takeda and Goro. Kind of sucks because I think Takeda is a lot more viable then people think, but no one wants to use him. Characters with flaws were used throughout the tournament, just not takeda ;(. Worst part about it, I enjoy seeing other characters and people doing good with other characters makes me want to use them, but I just end up sticking with Takeda because I'm a character loyalist right now.

I really hope someone surprises with Takeda soon at a tournament or something. Ronin feels like it hasn't even touched the tournament scene, even with its hype to be a good variation, and SR is still good enough to knock a few people off especially with some of the new stuff we're still finding out

i am so salty that i didn't book my evo ticket in time
would have repped that SR Takeda

 

[aieches]

With a lol bit more practice and I'm gonna start going to more tournaments.. with there was some locals that I could go to that were closer than 45 mins away. When you have a two year old , a wife that works at her family restaurant, and Don trust many babysitters, your putting us kinda limited :/

Next year though...I'm def going to enter CEO and not just spectate and I'm going to evo. Prob won't win, but I'm going.

 

[aieches]

So funny thing i noticed Aris pointed out that Zyphox really seemed like he had the need to prove himself since you have all these heavy hitters in Yomi but Zyphox never really seems to be one of the names at the top of the list... now... he makes top 8 at Evo with Lui Kang.. so .... really how much of this is training with Yomi vs how much of this was dropping takeda .

plus im mean the buffs/ baby nerf Kang got, wouldnt this technically be like a month "1.5 month" Kang.

 

[craftycheese]

With a lol bit more practice and I'm gonna start going to more tournaments.. with there was some locals that I could go to that were closer than 45 mins away. When you have a two year old , a wife that works at her family restaurant, and Don trust many babysitters, your putting us kinda limited :/

Next year though...I'm def going to enter CEO and not just spectate and I'm going to evo. Prob won't win, but I'm going.

Now that my rehearsals for a play that I'm in are wrapping up, because the show is starting this week, I'm gonna be doing the same with a local around here. I'm not great, just decent, but I'll at least have a chance to level up and actually have a chance to play with real people and not online only.

 

[StealthyMuffin]

How often do you guys use 1, 11, and 112 outside of combos? I haven't used them in weeks.

 

[aieches]

How often do you guys use 1, 11, and 112 outside of combos? I haven't used them in weeks.

I use them but not very much I'm trying to use them more . Played a takeda few weeks back that used them a lot so I'm trying to force learn them into my game plan. I never win a poke war with this though. Like rarely.