About those option selects...

[Adagost]

My guess is too that it's not fixable, I hope I'm wrong though...

These kind of OS need to go because it is hurting and breaking the game in the long run (heck, people came up with crazy tech and the game is what? 2 Months old?) - in my Opinion - this game is almost entirely build on commiting (example : blocking), if you can avoid that what's the point?

 

[Matix218]

I thought mk players would be praising Paulo about all these 50/50. At least you can guess to stay alive instead of just dying to cyrax and smoke

They tried to fix cyrax but failed (and people ended up finding even more damaging versions of his damage reset combos after they attempted to patch him) and smokes reset was a glitch (they actually managed to fix it on the vita version). No one is defending those inescapable damage resets but that doesn't mean we want mkx to have risk free high reward 50/50s for multiple characters. Im not saying this just to complain, I LOVE mkx and I LOVED mk9 as well. I just wish they could fix the OSs that's all

 

[Baconlord]

Whoa whoa, ive heard of someone using a defensive option select in a tournament but noone went in depth.
What are these defensive option selects. As someone who loves Streetfighter, I love to find and use option selects

On knockdown you can option select your back dash so it will only come out when your opponent dosent do a meaty

 

[Reauxbot]

I thought mk players would be praising Paulo about all these 50/50. At least you can guess to stay alive instead of just dying to cyrax and smoke

This game has the Marvel vs Capcom corner. Once youre in it youre pretty much dead.
I enjoy 50 50s but not the ones that all lead to big ass combos. Especially 1v1s lol

 

[Baconlord]

They tried to fix cyrax but failed (and people ended up finding even more damaging versions of his damage reset combos after they attempted to patch him) and smokes reset was a glitch (they actually managed to fix it on the vita version). No one is defending those inescapable damage resets but that doesn't mean we want mkx to have risk free high reward 50/50s for multiple characters. Im not saying this just to complain, I LOVE mkx and I LOVED mk9 as well. I just wish they could fix the OSs that's all

I'm just making a point that mk9 had way more bs then safe 50/50s and option selects.

 

[Baconlord]

They tried to fix cyrax but failed (and people ended up finding even more damaging versions of his damage reset combos after they attempted to patch him) and smokes reset was a glitch (they actually managed to fix it on the vita version). No one is defending those inescapable damage resets but that doesn't mean we want mkx to have risk free high reward 50/50s for multiple characters. Im not saying this just to complain, I LOVE mkx and I LOVED mk9 as well. I just wish they could fix the OSs that's all

I'm just making a point that mk9 had way more bs then safe 50/50s and option selects.

 

[Reauxbot]

On knockdown you can option select your back dash so it will only come out when your opponent dosent do a meaty

Is there a thread about this somewhere?
Unless you feel like explaining more.
I read in another thread someone was doing a blocking option select. I cant explain it.

 

[TopTierHarley]

Is there a thread about this somewhere?
Unless you feel like explaining more.
I read in another thread someone was doing a blocking option select. I cant explain it.

UltraDavid made a thread on it. You can also find it on the UltraChenTv youtube

 

[Baconlord]

Is there a thread about this somewhere?
Unless you feel like explaining more.
I read in another thread someone was doing a blocking option select. I cant explain it.

Ultra David made a thread about it that was front paged. Basically you buffer the first back in the back dash input while holding block and input the other back while not holding back. You still have to guess how to block if it's a true meaty but it's still good in for getting out of pressure.

 

[Under_The_Mayo]

I would think they could just change it to where if a special command is inputted, no other commands will invalidate it. Then no move will ever be cancelled.

 

[Mr_Swizzer]

Agreed

 

[chemist4hire]

I would think they could just change it to where if a special command is inputted, no other commands will invalidate it. Then no move will ever be cancelled.

This will make buffering impossible, and your timing would have to be frame perfect for every combo.

 

[Belial]

Honestly, man, this is not about certain things like OS or Vortexes that make game good or bad
The game can have all these and still be good and fun to play

For example defensive mechanics are really poor in NRS game, you have backdash that doesnt do much, a breaker that leave you crippled and an armor all that is pretty straightforward tech that have conditions to apply .

Normally when new tech is discovered it helps make a better game. But with a limited toolset MKX gives it actually has revese effect - narrows amount of usable characters.

in MKX, you are very limited in your offence and defence. So when new stuff is discovered you dont have tools to deal with it. There is not a lot of room for the game to grow. In terms of mindgames it didnt stray too far from Divekick.

 

[buyacushun]

if people have such a big problem with OS's why werent those people shouting about it 4 years ago for mk9 to have the system mechanics looked at. was in that aswell. i doubt its going, i guess they could change the ratio of block/hit cancel frames on certain moves (like radiens b2) to stop the "big ones"

MKx is the first time i'm actively looking at the forums and keeping up with the competitive side. I played injustice but couldn't keep at it, for reasons.

To patch it out they would have to rework how inputs are read and how their buffer system works. They have been using the same system since MK9, and most likely can't change it without having to start from scratch. The only reason the 1+2+3 option select triggering MB moves was in the game, was because it was a carry over from the injustice game engine and they forgot to remove it for MKX. They can release a new game every 2 years because all they are doing is adding things to an engine they developed for MK9. Reworking the buffer system would be more than they can probably handle right now. At least thats my working hypothesis.

That's an interesting idea and pretty believable too. Goes along with the whole NRS touch all their games seem to have.

Just play the game. You either adapt or get left behind. I'm surprised any of you have time to play with all the complaining I see everyday. Home of competitive MK my ass.

Why do people have to come in and dump on fine conversation. Someone can say they don't like something or want it removed and still learn to play with it. I'm fully prepared to accept that OSes may dictate the game for the rest of it's life. That doesn't mean i can't come here and voice my disappointment.

 

[TopTierHarley]

MKx is the first time i'm actively looking at the forums and keeping up with the competitive side. I played injustice but couldn't keep at it, for reasons.


That's an interesting idea and pretty believable too. Goes along with the whole NRS touch all their games seem to have.



Why do people have to come in and dump on fine conversation. Someone can say they don't like something or want it removed and still learn to play with it. I'm fully prepared to accept that OSes may dictate the game for the rest of it's life. That doesn't mean i can't come here and voice my disappointment.

Not if it's the same shit everytime. People would rather complain than learn. Every thread has been " I don't like it, so remove it".

 

[BoromiRofGeo]

1. Ermac has great offensive option selects

2. Pretty much everyone agrees that option selects should go, in every thread and every post since the game came out.

3. Very few people are actually even learning the option selects because they are extremely lazy

4. Yes these type of option selects are in MK9 and INJ and people knew that but go try them, they are ridiculously hard to do, since the input system is different. MKX they are definitely doable in a tournament setting.

5. There exists defensive option selects as well that are mostly unrelated to the complaining in this thread, just wanted to bring it up

can you teach me please? i mean it.

 

[buyacushun]

Not if it's the same shit everytime. People would rather complain than learn. Every thread has been " I don't like it, so remove it".

Yes lots of complaining can be annoying but what is wrong with removing this OS? I know some OSes can actually benefit a game but this one just makes MKx the safest guessing game.

 

[TopTierHarley]

Yes lots of complaining can be annoying but what is wrong with removing this OS? I know some OSes can actually benefit a game but this one just makes MKx the safest guessing game.

Then don't play. Adapt or Perish

 

[big j gleez]

Well this vote is overwhelmingly against them... and I am glad for that. Hopefully NRS sees this and gets on the ball

 

[buyacushun]

Then don't play. Adapt or Perish

So just dump the conversation to go all PLAY 2 WIN on me? ok.

 

[TopTierHarley]

So just dump the conversation to go all PLAY 2 WIN on me? ok.

Yes actually, that's what being a competitive player means.

 

[TopTierHarley]

There really is no point in trying to discuss OS with people on here. If you don't like them, don't use them. Simple.

 

[Matix218]

Yes actually, that's what being a competitive player means.

Being a competitive player means not being allowed to discuss things you feel are issues with a game/game design decisions on an online discussion forum about that game?

Give me a break

 

[buyacushun]

Yes actually, that's what being a competitive player means.

So anyone who voices a complaint can't be competitive? That's some awful logic.

Anyways, someone on here was asking about a OS compilation thread which i think would be really cool. Or at least one in each character's forums. If this becomes the meta might as well have a guide for it.

 

[TopTierHarley]

Being a competitive player means not being allowed to discuss things you feel are issues with a game/game design decisions on an online discussion forum about that game?

Give me a break

Discuss all you want. Complainingso so it gets removed because you don't like something is what I have a problem with.