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Should Kung Lao Be Banned This Weekend at Combo Breaker?

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Agilaz

Agilaz

It has begun
Cabjoy said:
I'm most interested to see what happens at Battle Arena Melbourne. @Perfect Legend is gonna be flying all the way over to Aus, and if he can't play KL shit's gonna be reaaaal interesting...
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I'm sure he'll pretend he didn't know about this and then present himself as the victim for not being allowed to play a broken character. And yes, a character with a glitch this important is by definition broken.
 
ZeroYiggs

ZeroYiggs

Noob
Agilaz said:
I'm sure he'll pretend he didn't know about this and then present himself as the victim for not being allowed to play a broken character. And yes, a character with a glitch this important is by definition broken.
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Already have snapshots of his Twitter interactions. He definitely knows about this.
 
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kunglaogod

www.Twitch.tv/drunkenshotgg
kunglao shouldnt be banned regardless what you guys say its not going to help change the TO response in this situation and if he is banned PL needs to learn to play more then 1 character. Also if he isnt banned just DQ people that use wake up teleport or wake up hat toss. Its not a big deal if someone uses that wake up , and everyone that mains kung lao knows that the worst wake up beside his spin is a teleport or hatspin. Why argue over a little thing. Give it a rest and wait for the TO resposne a patch wont come out to fix it in 2 days so now just wait for what they got to say. your flooding a poll over nothing is he banned or is he not banned if we voted 85% no hes not banned doesnt mean hes not banned in combo breaker the final decision. I got over it i found more cahracters i played with as well. Kunjin, Scorpion, Ermac, and "Sonic Fox" Erron Black...
 
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kunglaogod

www.Twitch.tv/drunkenshotgg
kung lao being banned isnt the end of the world its just a game and if you win woo you get money. and title. im just going to combo breaker to have fun and if i make top 8 great and if i dont great it doesnt matter its about having fun and being competitive at the same time.
 
SGX

SGX

Noob
To everyone saying DQ if you do the glitch:
What if you go for EX tele on wakeup and regular tele comes out? This happens to me probably 3 or 4 out of 10 tries. (Obviously not a Lao main)

You get DQ for fucking up an input?

Seriously, NO other community throws this much of a fit when a bug is discovered.
 
Agilaz

Agilaz

It has begun
SGX said:
To everyone saying DQ if you do the glitch:
What if you go for EX tele on wakeup and regular tele comes out? This happens to me probably 3 or 4 out of 10 tries. (Obviously not a Lao main)

You get DQ for fucking up an input?

Seriously, NO other community throws this much of a fit when a bug is discovered.
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Then ban both regular and EX wake-up teleport, duh.

Also, it's not just teleport, it's also wake-up hat.

It makes more sense to ban those specific moves - enough people are saying that "a good KL players wouldn't do those things anyway". Fine, then I don't see the issue with banning these specific moves and docking a match from anybody who uses them. Fair for everybody involved.
 
NariTuba

NariTuba

disMember
Zoidberg747 said:
Whether it allows someone to beat someone of a higher skill level is irrelevant, because skill is subjective. The reason people ban things in tournaments is because they feel it is an exploit that shouldn't be able to be used.
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Skill is not subjective, REO is more skilled than you or I. If I beat REO in a tournament first to 3 using a glitch, then it is game breaking because the advantage it grants is poweful enough to completely remove skill from the equation.

It has nothing to do with "feeling" it is an exploit, it has to do with wether it is game breaking or not. A Ban is not somthing to be thrown out lightly, even if this glitch was enough to make KL the best character in the game (which it does not).
 
RM_NINfan101

RM_NINfan101

Nine Inch Nails fan from Metro Detroit, Michigan
I will say this glitch is extremely unfortunate and I for one believe that this is not a good look, KL is a popular character and a lot of people play him. Whatever decision should be made, I don't really think ANYONE wants to make. I thought this is what the hotfix system was for, but it appears that NRS has a lot on their plate and cannot do it before Combo Breaker starts and must be patched out. (They just finally fixed the Ermac meter drain glitch.)

MKX could of used a delay, tbh. (Warner Bros likely would not let it happen though as developer deadlines are a real thing now.) The Spectral Ermac glitch made no sense to me how it appeared and was not found quicker in development in the first place, and now we have this. Of course things are found in games and things do take time to patch out, but this is such a glaring bug that IMO ruins the character and I would find it really hard to tell someone "You can't teleport or do Hat Toss." or "because we just found these bugs with his wakeups/moves, he's now soft banned."

I'm honestly glad this isn't a decision I get to make.
 
MKF30

MKF30

Fujin and Ermac for MK 11
Yes, if S. Ermac gets ban. So should KL. At least with Ermac that was only one variation pfftt ....KL....
 
Pan1cMode

Pan1cMode

AUS FGC represent!
Ugodimak said:
If we're banning Kung Lao entirely, then you might as well ban Sub Zero and Cassie because of this right?

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They already have. All tournaments have rules that state something to the effect that intentionally freezing the game in any way results in DQ/forfeiture of the round/game.

NRF CharlieMurphy said:
no... it was confusing to read though.

i'll try again

There are plenty of characters where they toss you full to 3/4 screen away and Kung Lao can check them with a hat toss on wake up (whether it is safe or not doesn't matter... its there)

You're suggesting dq'ing people who have had this MU experience and done these time and time again and engrained muscle memory to do this. Whether it be the low hat... or the teleport.

Especially only.... what ... 4 days out.......... if I mained lao i'd demand my money back from the event if any of this caused an immediate DQ. You can't un-train yourself to do these things that you've been doing for so long in that short of a period of time. They're just natural reactions and natural instinct.
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But expecting Cassie mains to relearn all their combos 2 days before Toryuken was ok? Tough shit mate.
 
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DatMangoSentinel

Poverty's Champion
Pan1cMode said:
They already have. All tournaments have rules that state something to the effect that intentionally freezing the game in any way results in DQ/forfeiture of the round/game.


But expecting Cassie mains to relearn all their combos 2 days before Toryuken was ok? Tough shit mate.
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I'm gonna agree with this. I found that was completely bullshit and for a lot of Cassie mains, I'm surprised how quick they did (Was at Toryuken)!


On the topic of this whole, ban Kung Lao? I'd say no, but I'd say a soft ban or grounds on DQ for the abuse of the glitch would be a lot more acceptable. As a player of Kung Lao, I still say he should be [banned] for what it's worth, but there are ways to punish the people who'd abuse this. Though a lot of KL players from what I've seen and experienced don't even try teleport on wakeup because it's just not worth getting hit out of teleport.

Ultimately, my answer is either soft ban, DQ for abuse or an overall yes until hotfix.
 
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