LeftOverShark
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I agreevwith Dave 100% Quan really isn't that good.
It's faster by like what, 1 frame? I really don't think it's super relevant. And this just seems to me like it's looking at what your own character is lacking but not looking at what it gains, or what the other character lacks. Sure, Cassies B1 offend gets started meterless... But Reptiles gets started on block which is huge for this type of move, especially in a match up where it's going to be so important! Reptile is lightning fast as well. Sorry but I cannot see this as anything but a 5-5b1 is faster than f21, and unlike Cassie, f21's offense only really gets started with a bar. It makes her better in the long run because she's not as meter-dependent at that range, and will oftentimes beat him to the punch. Doesn't help that her run is really fast, too.
I think she edges him out just a bit, at worst. At best, I agree, it's even. She's faster by 2 frames there also. It's not major, but it does make a difference. But if he gets forceballs going, it's hard for her too.It's faster by like what, 1 frame? I really don't think it's super relevant. And this just seems to me like it's looking at what your own character is lacking but not looking at what it gains, or what the other character lacks. Sure, Cassies B1 offend gets started meterless... But Reptiles gets started on block which is huge for this type of move, especially in a match up where it's going to be so important! Reptile is lightning fast as well. Sorry but I cannot see this as anything but a 5-5
At worse I think the MU is 5-5 but I need to play Big Palooka & other Cassie's more often. HQT Predator wouldn't be so bad if Reptile's jump wasn't goddamn awful.I think she edges him out just a bit, at worst. At best, I agree, it's even. She's faster by 2 frames there also. It's not major, but it does make a difference. But if he gets forceballs going, it's hard for her too.
Idk probably just playing @DarkFire*'s Cassie makes me salty about her lol.
Lol the new "rebelo"I motion to remove the word 'bad' and all its synonyms from the English language and replace it with the world 'Kenshi'.
Such phrases would now would look like this: That new Beiber song is so fucking Kenshi or Did you catch the game last night? The Steelers got absolutely Kenshi'd. Their defence was so bottom 2.
This is in accordance with the world view from a Kenshi player, to whom it is entirely impossible to mention something without reference to how bad their character is.
I'll Hit u up for imposterI suppose all I really know about Boneshaper is that the EX scoop is a godsend. Other than that his footsie game is basic but really good. If you ever start learning the other two variations I'll throw tips at ya but I don't know much about Boneshaper
Jax IMO is pre patch raidenThis thread is still blowing up? Pig sure is a popular guy here, I tried following your possessed and kenjustu guides but yea I dropped Kenshi a long, long time ago too.
Now that that's over, can I interest anyone here to pick up Jax?
I don't use a whole lot of BoneShaper but when people say he doesn't have bad MU's I don't think they're wrong. So you can use BoneShaper for most MU's and be alright. That being said, I like Imposter for MU's like Sub-Zero, Predator, even Kitana where the teleport can get around their zoning tools pretty easily (online anyway). Ummm anyone he gets a crazy vortex from so Kotal, Mileena, Tanya, Ermac. He can loop Lao and Jax but they can punish him on most things he does. And finally any MU where he steals something stupid like the 16% safe chip damage string on Cassie or gaining a 19% command grab against F/T.Thx for those giving me advice like I was asking
I imagine the rest of the posts are from people I can't see Because they're blocked for being morons
I'm happy these people have a place to matter though - anyone can post on the Internet where as in person people just stray away from these people
I.e.: I got hands and aldazos of the world
@ArmedCalf what MUs do you feel strongly benefit imposter over BS? Imposter is a lot of fun actually
Finally. Bring on the A+ tier.Hey Guys
I really would like all Shinnok mains to list for me the most important 3-5 things to do with Broke........Bone Shaper. Im done counting on Just kenshi, I really like Reptile and he has covered 4-5 of Kenshi many bad MUs pretty well w success but see theres these other characters called the top tier that cannot be covered by these two characters and I need some S+ reinforcement because im tired of F ing around w low tier kenshi and Upper Mid Reptile (he's very good but i want MKX top 5 good)
I dont think Shinnok has any Bad MUs, I feel he is still broke and top 5.
If Kenshi EX RK was +12 on block id probably still use him too or maybe if Shinnok Fireball was -44 on crouch whiff people wouldnt have as much success w Shinnok, idk who knows. I do know one thing, I've had success w low tier kenshi but thirst dominance now leading up till evo 2016 and i think Shinnok is just the Broken Ronald McDonald I'm looking for.
So I'm accepting all advice - BNBs, Strats, etc.
Ill start using him at tourney around KIT, he'll be ready by then
Thx
In actual thought, I think you should be Sorcerer Quan, seems like your type of shit, and when I mean your type of shit, I mean ArmourHey Guys
I really would like all Shinnok mains to list for me the most important 3-5 things to do with Broke........Bone Shaper. Im done counting on Just kenshi, I really like Reptile and he has covered 4-5 of Kenshi many bad MUs pretty well w success but see theres these other characters called the top tier that cannot be covered by these two characters and I need some S+ reinforcement because im tired of F ing around w low tier kenshi and Upper Mid Reptile (he's very good but i want MKX top 5 good)
I dont think Shinnok has any Bad MUs, I feel he is still broke and top 5.
If Kenshi EX RK was +12 on block id probably still use him too or maybe if Shinnok Fireball was -44 on crouch whiff people wouldnt have as much success w Shinnok, idk who knows. I do know one thing, I've had success w low tier kenshi but thirst dominance now leading up till evo 2016 and i think Shinnok is just the Broken Ronald McDonald I'm looking for.
So I'm accepting all advice - BNBs, Strats, etc.
Ill start using him at tourney around KIT, he'll be ready by then
Thx
Yea I always do the jax marketing, not only because I like the character and want to encourage more people to pick him up, but compared to the others,nothing is being discovered for him, Jax forums aren't dead, but they ain't buzzing with block infinites,Oki setups and general tech neither ...maybe there's nothing more to find out?....Hmm..maybe...maybe you should pick up Jax?Jax IMO is pre patch raiden
He's way under used
Hmmm I agree at best its even, but I also feel like at worst its even, the differences arent enough to make it a winning or losing match-up for either IMO. Even if is slanted Cassies way which I'm not convinced off, I don't think its enough to throw out 5-5 balance. Just my opinion.I think she edges him out just a bit, at worst. At best, I agree, it's even. She's faster by 2 frames there also. It's not major, but it does make a difference. But if he gets forceballs going, it's hard for her too.
Idk probably just playing @DarkFire*'s Cassie makes me salty about her lol.
You're one to talk about petty obsession lol. Regardless, I'd hate to see the great voice of InfraDead leave this site as well :tonytLessons learned from this thread:
1. Shinnok is still pretty damn good.
2. Tremor outclasses Quan Chi.
3. Kenshi still sucks as a whole.
4. ...eh, fuck it. Everyone's overrated.
5. Bad rebeloing. Need I say more?
6. Petty obsessions still exist somehow. Get the fuck over yourselves already. Huge reason why TYM is still a cesspool of bad information and has resulted in plenty of great voices in this community to leave this site for good.
wait who does he lose to? this is news to me.Eh, he's okay vs the top. He loses to a lot of them, though. It's just not blowout levels.
Lao, Tanya, Predator, Kang, as far as top tiers go. I think Sub is also a losing matchup. I think they're not awful. Just not in his favor.wait who does he lose to? this is news to me.
I feel his bad MUs areLao, Tanya, Predator, Kang, as far as top tiers go. I think Sub is also a losing matchup. I think they're not awful. Just not in his favor.
I forgot Shinnok. But outside of Sub, he basically has problems with top tiers.I feel his bad MUs are
Sub 4-6
Lao 4-6
Shinnok idk feels bad
Kang 4-6 minimum
Tanya predator I feel are 5-5
Sorry Pig but you have no chance in this game, no more braindead "zoning" for you. This time you need to fight close, face to face, like men.I imagine the rest of the posts are from people I can't see Because they're blocked for being morons
I'm happy these people have a place to matter though - anyone can post on the Internet where as in person people just stray away from these people
I.e.: I got hands and aldazos of the world
Can you explain why? Not quoting you to disagree the joy one I had an opinion on was Cassie. I'm just trying to get more familiar with his MUs. Shinnok I can see because he controls the space so well and Reptile is forced to try wade through it. Sub is a no brainer. Lao is a stronger character all round but what makes him a 6-4? Does he have any critical gaps or something because it would seem he does better against pressure than most. I woulda felt that Kang as well would be a winning one for ReptileI feel his bad MUs are
Sub 4-6
Lao 4-6
Shinnok idk feels bad
Kang 4-6 minimum
Tanya predator I feel are 5-5
Lol but he said the other week that he has like 50 ppl on his ignore list, if you are going to post your opinions publically you can't just block out the sun in case anyone who disagrees with you (or the people you are insulting decide to respond to it).Aldazo, he has you on ignore. Time to leggo that eggo.