SaltShaker
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Flawed in the sense that just because someone is amazing with a character it does not mean that their opinion will be unbiased when stating who the best characters are. You yourself make my point. As a Tanya main, a potential Top 5 character, your response to this is "here is why she is not Top 5". This is literally what 90% of "experts" using Top Tier are doing.It's possible for different people to have different opinions on top 5 based on diffrrent levels of information. How is that "flawed"? I didn't say "every 'expert' "downplaying" their character has accurate information on tier lists."
I keep hearing Tanya's top 5 from people who believe her delayed rekkas are +15, yet somehow I'm a "downplayer" while coincidentally one of the only people with accurate information, who is an "expert" on the character.
The same defense you are making as to why Tanya is not Top 5 is the same defense that many Quan Chi, Shinnok, Liu Kang, etc main's have been doing on the basis of "I know the character better than you". So if everyone knows their character better than others, and none of the concensus Top 7-8 are Top 5, then who is?
Not at all I agree. To me there's a Top 8 that becomes subjective and MU dependent when trying to classify the "Top 5". I understand that list will be different because there's no clear lining yet. What I don't agree with is everyone who main's Top Tier saying their character isn't Top 5 because they're overrated, but then go on to name characters just as good being "better" than theirs.I gotta agree with this. @SaltShaker I think you are making the mistake of assuming there is a concrete top 5 at this point. I think there is a concrete top 2 lol, but aside from the outliers the following top 10 is extremely closely balanced.
I don't think people are downplaying by having differing opinions here. I think you have to rcognise downplaying on its own merits and lack of substance - don't worry, they usually make it pretty easy for us lol
Like the example above, saying Tanya is not Top 5 because "I've mastered the character so I know better" is like Cowboy saying Shinnok is not Top 5. Like Honeybee saying D'Vorah is not Top 5. Like King saying Predator is not Top 5. Like Sonic saying Erron is not Top 5. Like Dink saying Quan Chi is not Top 5. Etc etc all because they know better. So if no one is Top 5 based on expert players telling us so, then who is? Sub-zero and Sonya?