Question Why don't players use feints more at high level?

[Lt. Boxy Angelman]

I do it constantly.

I just call it baiting.

^^

Make the opponent beat themselves.

 

[OutworldKeith]

I just call it baiting.

It's a form of baiting.

 

[BlaqandMild15]

I do this all the time.I would glow throw rang a couple of times,then just glow.repeat.

 

[ryublaze]

I used to stance switch with Scorpion after teleport back dash sometimes...not sure if that counts.

 

[OutworldKeith]

I used to stance switch with Scorpion after teleport back dash sometimes...not sure if that counts.

Definitely counts lol. I use stance change to feint Hellfire.

 

[Seapeople]

Randomly going invisible with Reptile or Smoke is a great way to do this.
I've seen a lot of top players do a stance change to cause a reaction as well. And I think Reo even messes up his iagbs on purpose sometimes lol.

 

[ryublaze]

Definitely counts lol. I use stance change to feint Hellfire.

I like that, never thought of that before.

 

[OutworldKeith]

I like that, never thought of that before.

I can't take credit for it. Slips was the 1st one to do that. It's good because they want the punish for jumping the hellfire, but you recover in time to aa.

 

[FrothyOmen]

It's tough when normals in this game take twice as long as those on street fighter and the game is overall twice as fast in its general feel... Iunno about this but if others have success despite that maybe ill look into it more

 

[Zoidberg747]

It's tough when normals in this game take twice as long as those on street fighter and the game is overall twice as fast in its general feel... Iunno about this but if others have success despite that maybe ill look into it more

You play smoke right? Off the top of my head, if you whiffed a sweep from a far range but just close enough to where they might see free pressure, they might dash forward and you could get them with smokebomb.

It is more of a one time gimmick than actual high level tactic though.

 

[OutworldKeith]

You play smoke right? Off the top of my head, if you whiffed a sweep from a far range but just close enough to where they might see free pressure, they might dash forward and you could get them with smokebomb.

It is more of a one time gimmick than actual high level tactic though.

A lot of characters have really normals with really fast recovery like Noob's standing 2.

 

[Zoidberg747]

A lot of characters have really normals with really fast recovery like Noob's standing 2.

Yeah but if they catch on they wont fall for it and you will just whiff for no reason. You cannot be predictable with it.

 

[coolwhip]

I once asked Tom about his usage of B1, and he said he's usually going for an ice clone (D B 1) but it doesn't come out due to the input bug, and he gets B1 instead.

To be specific, I saw him use it as an AA and that's the explanation he gave. So maybe he uses it in other situations as a feint.

Slips said he uses a stance switch with Scorpion to get the opponent to jump so he can anti air them with a spear. He said it can make the opponent think he's going for hellfire.

Foxy and Curbo use Cage's B2 as a feint by cancelling it into F3 or 2,1.

 

[OutworldKeith]

Yeah but if they catch on they wont fall for it and you will just whiff for no reason. You cannot be predictable with it.

Works out well for Noob though. Jumped Shadow=Dead lol.

If he whiffs a 2 or even a b2 and they jump, he can catch them with a shadow or upknee for a combo. That can potentially keep them grounded making his zone safer.

 

[Illmatix]

ermac's standing1 works really well, d1 looks like forceball 2 lol

 

[Sage Leviathan]

I use it when i know a match is close to its closing and the opponent is at a heightened sense of reactionary skill.

Youd be surprised how many people go nuts when the expect a full screen lowhat,
i throw out a standing 2, they jump and get DKd for my win.

 

[The_SNKE]

I use standing 2 as Smoke to feint smokebomb.

 

[OutworldKeith]

Cyrax players whiff normals, then shoot out a net.

Yo I'm going GOLD tomorrow or sunday

 

[Insuperable]

Tom Brady does it a lot. He calls it the input bug. #Kappa

 

[Mikemetroid]

I feint with Cage's standing 3 all the time

 

[HGTV Soapboxfan]

i use this alot against characters who really have to commit in footsies. For example, against sonyas d4 or cages fwd3 scorpions only real answer is back dash b2, which requires a lot of commitment because it is so slow. Therefore I will throw out like a d3 at around sweep distance and a really on edge scorpion player will go for the b2, which I can then punish. Its very situational, but also very rewarding.

 

[XBlades]

K.O.E_18
lol thanks man, also the reason why I do d3 is because jax superman punch can reach from mid screen thats why I am also doing that. There are many things I do d3, but mainly for fake low fireball feints.. since the recovery is so bad. I only do it at least full screen.. but by far high fireball is required in that match since instant air doesnt avoid the GP..

 

[OutworldKeith]

K.O.E_18
lol thanks man, also the reason why I do d3 is because jax superman punch can reach from mid screen thats why I am also doing that. There are many things I do d3, but mainly for fake low fireball feints.. since the recovery is so bad. I only do it at least full screen.. but by far high fireball is required in that match since instant air doesnt avoid the GP..

No problem, it was good stuff man .

 

[Qwark28]

Feints don't guarantee punishes or pressure. They are used to primarily used to cause a desired reaction. If they can get a player like CDjr to jump I'd say they're worth using.

except he didnt jump because of the feint, he jumped because of a high fb read, the feint kept him from punishing that bad read

 

[zaf]

If you want to see feints, watch my matches.

Im one of the few people who actually use feints, and it works very well with ermac