I too have been trying to punish with some of his strings, they just seem too slow for most of the cast
This is the downside of takeda so far. I haven't looked into Ronin yet but his fastest normal is the uppercut in his whip variations which was 7 frames if I remember. I use d3 a lot and just go for pressure. It's plus 2 I think on block and has ok startup at 10 frames
I thought I noticed something like this Ferra torr last night. Looks like dd's wakeup reversal might be back to some degree.
As long as you end with 334, Takeda will land on top of them.
I was beginning to think the same. Looks like we'll dodge the nerf gun yet. But I've found a 38% 1 meter corner combo into a throw back into the corner. If meter burned it goes into a 50/50. Setup is as follows j2, 4 4 MB spear, there will be a pop up quickly nj2, then d2 this is where it gets crucial. After the uppercut they get launched out of the corner take a step forward then throw them back in the corner. From there you're a the perfect distance to either start a combo with b3 (low) or b21 (overhead) if you have a meter rinse and repeat I guess. This can be woken up out of if you don't spend the bar to meter burn the throw back into the corner. Not the best set up or anything I'm hoping one of you guys can help me optimize it. But hey. 38% ain't too bad. Lol!
What are the inputs?
This worries me.. I'm interested in the 50% punish @CrimsonShadow csme up with but when I think about how meter dependent he's starting to be I don't know if I'll use it unless it ends in a setup.
Try this out and if nothing else play around with the meter burn grab some and see if that helps. Maybe his strength is in his natural 50/50 game from range. I haven't been in the practice room too much. Mostly trying to execute some of the things you guys are posting. Loving this dude though.
112 is going to be the fastest punisher as it is 10f, but keep in mind coming out of block adds some frames(can't remember if it is one or two). SO if something is -10 you still can't punish it. My advice would be to just d2 if you are playing a spacing/footsie game, or just down poke into pressure if you are playing an up close game.
What about f1, 2+4 teleport nj2, ji4, air spear? 29% or something like that but isn't f1,2+4 9 frames?
what are you using to pressure after d3? 112 wiffs ducking opponents so I've been using f3 (double kicks) to get back to neutral since it's 0 on block.. i think thats interruptible though. His upclose game is a headache..
Tornado kick, on startup at least.
Shirai Ryu is just Fist Flurry last time I checked, although EX spear might be too...
Can never tell. Remember day -3 or whatever when everyone and their mom was crying that he was OP and needed a nerf? Yea, times that by a million noobs getting their hands on the game just yesterday. Not saying hes on the block, but im saying the stuff this site figures out has no corollation with a character getting or not getting, an early nerf.
Sorry about that. My phone suggested it when I was tagging you..
Fist flurry is armored on wakeup? Shit....that helps alot. I started playing Lasher last night because I couldn't handle not waking up. I'm gonna test how good it is when I get home. Would love to keep playing Ryu variation
I'm curious as to how you guys are using Tornado kick because really get now it feels like its really easy to get hit out of.. It's also hard to use the right one when the opponent is moving around etc.. Just not reliable for something as risky as armoring through something.