General/Other - Reptile REPTILE PATCH 8-31-2015 DISCUSSION

[Wam-Zlay]

best changes ever made. Glad that i never really dropped the lizard!

 

[Griszly]

If you do 3,4xxEx dd3xx walk forward a second then b1,d4xxffb you can 23,f412 and depending on how long you wait your dash will end up on either side of them without them knowing. Their wake ups would be a shot in the dark

 

[haketh]

You can cancel Force Ball movement pretty much isntantly now

 

[HatecraftsWife]

New EX slide corner conversions.

New deceptive corner combo:

 

[dribirut]

How do the buffs feel? Is there a noticeable difference with the fbs?

 

[JDM]

How do the buffs feel? Is there a noticeable difference with the fbs?

Not from what I can tell, no.

Buffs feel decent. I only messed with him for a minute though

 

[HatecraftsWife]

All midscreen combos are opener xx EX DD3, F412 xx BF2, NJP, F41, F412 xx BF4

Corner is F41 xx EX DD3, F412 xx BF2, NJP, 141, D3, F412 xx BF4

 

[THTB]

Deceptive and Nimble I think will be the two best now. Deceptive's pressure game is probably the best of his variations and EX stealth being so fast has a lot of gap punish potential.

 

[THTB]

Can someone test out the anti airs in the new patch? See if we can AA jab stuff like Sub jump ins now.

 

[HatecraftsWife]

Can someone test out the anti airs in the new patch? See if we can AA jab stuff like Sub jump ins now.

Standing 2 seems maybe a bit more consistent. But I'd have to try and do it during a real match. Sub still beats it out sometimes in training mode.

 

[Wam-Zlay]

40% slide starter corner combo with 2 meter

inputs

ex slide f412 ex ffb uppercut f412 slide (i guess you can do it with ex slow forceball aswell)

 

[Wam-Zlay]

and here we go 43% corner combo with 2 meters

34 (ex) slide f412 (ex) ffb uppercut f412 slide - 43%

if you change starter :

12 (ex) slide f412 (ex) ffb uppercut f412 slide - 41%
21 (ex) slide f412 (ex) ffb uppercut f412 slide - 42%

ty @HatecraftsWife for your slide combos

 

[Cossner]

Can someone test out the anti airs in the new patch? See if we can AA jab stuff like Sub jump ins now.

Use b3

 

[Wam-Zlay]

Here we go again :

45% corner slide combo with reptile (2 bars)

f4 (ex) slide f412 (ex) ffb uppercut f412 slide

 

[huh]

Hey Guys, I'm currently wearing a cast on my broken hand and cannot test it. Would you mind to test some ideas?

1) Klaw Pounce as an approach

with -7 on block now, the pounce can only be punished by characters with 6 frame punishers. Cassie, Jacqui (now with s1), Reptile, and some pokes. That means there is a portion of the cast that Pounce is safe against. So, using far pounce to advance against zoners should be safe on several MU's, also could be useful to close the gap against runaway characters or players. So, could someone lab this:

Far pounce against the likes of Kitana and Kenshi. Does Reptile get hit by fans or other zoning tool while in the air or there is a timing you can pass them and catch the opponent on recovery or even after, blocking? Or Kitana mid air?


2) Far pounce with forceball on screen.

With a safe pounce and less recovery on forceball, can we put out a forceball on screen and then pounce over it to approach? For example: ending combos with combo~f412~sfb and then far pounce. They will block it but at -7 and a forceball coming from behind, depending on how far/close the forceball is, we could be able to still safely pressure after being blocked. Could someone explore it as an ender of different combos and using sfb, ex sfb, ffb, etc.. to see if there is any situation when we can indeed approach and continue pressure this way?

Kind of what we used to do with elbow dash and sfb in MK9

3) Pounce to force opponents to stay in the corner

Can we do the same as above (2), putting a forceball on screen, klaw pounce over it to opponent's block, and then stop the ball? The goal here is to force opponents to stay there while we put the forceball near them and stop it. The pounce would force them to hold block or be hit trying to move forward/jump. If we knocked them to the corner before the forceball, stopping the ball in front of them would act as Subzero's clone. Can anyone test if that works? Don't know if the forceball lasts long enough for it or if pounce really catches them if trying to jump out.

I'm intrigued with pounce, since it seems to be very useful now and opens up new meta possibilities for Reptile.

 

[huh]

just tagging some people to read the post above:

@RM Cossner @THTB @OFIDYAN @Wam-Zlay @G4S J360 @RapZiLLa54 @AoK Ryan and others I'm not recalling now. Please read the previous post and see if there is any useful meta to make out of that. Sorry, can't do much myself due to the broken hand

 

[Wam-Zlay]

just tagging some people to read the post above:

@RM Cossner @THTB @OFIDYAN @Wam-Zlay @G4S J360 @RapZiLLa54 and others I'm not recalling now. Please read the previous post and see if there is any useful meta to make out of that. Sorry, can't do much myself due to the broken hand

i´ll try that as soon as i have some time ^_^

 

[RapZiLLa54]

How do the buffs feel? Is there a noticeable difference with the fbs?

Extremely noticeable. Its amazing how just 4 frames of recovery changed this character. He can now end combos into forceball without having to worry about being punished. IE You can do f412 dash 21 f412 slowball and its now safe and you can also now stop the slow ball right in front of you, so jumping is no longer an option if thats the read you make. Kung Jin used to be able to wake up jump in divekick and punish you if you did this, he no longer can. You can also end combos with klaw and get a forceball on screen safely as well.

Also being able to combo dash into forceball is going to be absurd. Putting a slowball on the screen and dashing forward is actually viable now due to just 4 frames of less recovery. Makes dash safe on block and now has combo potential . This character is perfect.

 

[Wam-Zlay]

Anti Sub Zero Slide Wake Up - Reset - you can add 1% of dmg with another forceball after the first hit

 

[RapZiLLa54]

Anti Sub Zero Slide Wake Up - Reset - you can add 1% of dmg with another forceball after the first hit

Its almost hilarious to think that this was up until this point not a viable setup lol.. A setup hes practically had since creation lol

 

[Wam-Zlay]

Its almost hilarious to think that this was up until this point not a viable setup lol.. A setup hes practically had since creation lol

so this worked before the patch? I never threw out forceballs at all as combo ender

 

[THTB]

Extremely noticeable. Its amazing how just 4 frames of recovery changed this character. He can now end combos into forceball without having to worry about being punished. IE You can do f412 dash 21 f412 slowball and its now safe and you can also now stop the slow ball right in front of you, so jumping is no longer an option if thats the read you make. Kung Jin used to be able to wake up jump in divekick and punish you if you did this, he no longer can. You can also end combos with klaw and get a forceball on screen safely as well.

Also being able to combo dash into forceball is going to be absurd. Putting a slowball on the screen and dashing forward is actually viable now due to just 4 frames of less recovery. Makes dash safe on block and now has combo potential . This character is perfect.

Sub was punishing this ender, from my testing...but that's cuz Sub is a jackass. It's great vs everyone else though.

Edit: didn't see it was ex slow ball that worked. In there!

 

[RapZiLLa54]

Sub was punishing this ender, from my testing...but that's cuz Sub is a jackass. It's great vs everyone else though.

Edit: didn't see it was ex slow ball that worked. In there!

Ex slide might be able to punish it but I'm pretty sure regular slide can't.

 

[RapZiLLa54]

so this worked before the patch? I never threw out forceballs at all as combo ender

No it didn't. I'm saying that your setup has been a basic reptile setup in almost every game previously until this one.

 

[Alright RyRy]

Also now a good "mixup" in the corner would be B2 (if blocked since you are +1) into Ex Slide. Since now you can net 30+%

I really enjoy this character and I do even more now.