Normal amulet is punishable on block and you can interrupt with armor or backdash both EX and normal Amulet after f22, there is a gap.
Up rocket is great and has almost no recovery. Maybe against cross ups she's got nothing (I mean most characters have nothing on cross ups) but that move gets a ton of damage if they jump at you and it's not even a huge risk because of the small recovery.
Yeah, of course it makes a difference that is beneficial to Kung Lao. But, as long as whatever advantage he gets off an ex hat spin guarantees a free block string, it's going to be more or less the same from the opponent's perspective, who will just have to block and hold that. Which is why I'm saying if the answer to the cries for ex hat spin nerf is to reduce the block advantage all the while still guaranteeing a block string, it won't make much of a difference since he'll still be building tons of meter, doing chip, getting a grab mix-up, etc...while the opponent can do nothing but block or tech the grab on a read.
Is lao j2 as much of a bill as batman j2 according to you?
No argument to be made with you and your post history. Your argument is always: You're downplaying, I know more. Doesn't make for good discussion either buddy.It's funny how you think you undeniably know better than me, the entirety of Yomi, and everyone else in this thread who is agreeing on it. You on the other hand, are just agreeing with a guy who's only argument so far is pointing out a spelling mistake.
It's also funny how you are so salty about this thread that you carry it over to people's status's and start whining about everyone up-playing Kenshi, on completely unrelated statements.
The funniest thing to me however, is the how people with the weakest arguments seem to rely the most heavily on insults and obnoxious images
You're done bro. Get out of this thread before you end up lookin even worse.
There's far more players agreeing with the list and saying nothing contrary about Kenshi's placing in it, than there is disagreeing with it however.
My secondary is Kenjutsu bro, I benefit MASSIVELY from his buffs. Unlike certain others, I'm not going to complain constantly about people being realistic with this character's placing, or start raging on other people's status's about "all the morons up-playing Kenshi have no idea how this game works" etc when it's barely even relevant to the person's status, shit is just cringeworthy ass downplaying, no other words for it. I'm thinking perhaps you misunderstood, I'm literally lol'ing at Immortal still doing his ridiculous song and dance. Everywhere.
Well your post seemed arrogant towards people disagreeing not just a person. But yeah it's cool to have different opinions never had a problem with that.There's far more players agreeing with the list and saying nothing contrary about Kenshi's placing in it, than there is disagreeing with it however.
You keep saying I'm bitter - what do I have to be bitter about?
I made a post in here about one of the rudest members I've seen on this forum, doing his usual "talk down to everyone, downplay Kenshi at all costs, question the intelligence of anyone who disagrees with him" gig. And he kept doing just that, and as the other poster said, you guys were pretty much just proving my point.
I can respect those opinions, quite thoroughly. 8-12, fair enough. Not too much of a far cry, for a character that hasn't had a big competitive impact (yet). I think Kenjutsu is definitely think he's just outside the top 5 as a character however, I'd go 6-8 personally. It isn't about me being insulting to anyone having different opinion, it was me talking about someone DOING JUST THAT. You can see why people thought you guys were just proving my point, when the two of you started responding with more insults, obnoxious pictures, pointing out typos, and just being general dicks. It's ok to have differing opinions on tier'ing guys, you don't have to go to war with everyone who feels otherwise
Come on, I qualified that Batman j2 statement with "as an air to air," but that question is legit going to keep me up at night. Seriously.
The answer is no that shit is broken. #nooptions
Up rocket has 12 frames of startup meaning it can't really be done on reaction, it has to be done on read. It won't catch crossups, it won't anti-air jumps from close distance, and I don't know where you've got your info from, but it has 174 frames of recovery; it is very much unsafe on whiff.
I'll take your word on the frame data. All I know is Jacqui is one of the characters I've had the least trouble with when it comes to anti-airing. And obviously I'm not talking about the other 2 variations come on.
Up Rocket doesn't have 174 frames of recovery, the frame data is wrong for sure. From mid range distance even if Jaquie whiffs she is safe against most of the roster, it recovers extremely fast.
It is not wrong, I've tested it myself. It's just she recovers before the hitbox of the missiles leaves the screen. Midscreen I think every character can punish a whiffed db2 by running in for full combo.
Look, I tested it just now. The move recovers almost instantly, it has less than 20 frames of recovery.
I actually agree with this quite a bit, except for Mileena. She is not worse than Jason or Reptile. I'd go
I can respect that, but what did you do with Kano? lol
Kano? Oops below Ferra but above Kahn. It gets real hard doing the bottom half of a list tbh lots of different and quite frankly valid arguments can be made for placement for each.
Well, that's how a tier list is supposed to be done for a 90 character fighter. Not in terms of numerical order, but in terms of which variations are good and which ones are not. The process of creating a tier list in today's generation of fgc players has been done in somewhat of a hasty manner. I'm no veteran, but I've always watched fgc players since I was 15 years of age. The process on how a tier list is made requires some research on what tools the character may or may not have, their matchups, pros, cons, et cetera. So far, I've been seeing tier lists drop based on just theories and who may be broken within the 5 minute time it took to make that list. Now, I'm not saying that this tier list was just excreted out, because Yomi has some talented players in their ranks, but I'm curious as to where they've obtained their information from. Is it just solely based on what a character has, because last I check Tanya was just released and to say she's the best in the game already is a bit rash, wouldn't you agree? The character hasn't been fleshed out enough to determine whether she is truly the best or not. For example, look at Fire Fist Liu Kang. He got a major buff and everyone is already crying for nerfs, but some players in the community have found ways to deal with FF Liu Kang which makes the fight not one sided. As a community, we need to stop making tier lists a priority and put that on the back burner for a little while. We need to flesh out the game together as one to figure out what needs to be fixed, who is good, who is not, and what's viable. If we rush a list so soon it wont come out well. It's kind of like a soufflé. It is a delicate matter that needs time and patience to make.
