I certainly don't think there's any way to justify the change. It's not like he needed it, but if it turns out he does get this buff, it's not like he goes straight to S tier.
Totally agree.
To shed some perspective-
You're such a bad troll you even stole m2daves gimmick.
The idea of Jasons grab working on B2 on hit or block is different though because B2 on hit hits them into the air while Kotals B1 keeps them standing. Kotal B1 comboing into grab on hit would be like if Jaaons B1 tick throw worked on hit too and B1 was faster and never whiffed on anything.
Why do you say kotal isn't a grappler?
But that's how everyone talks about anything in fighters. I'm sure people said the same thing ablut T4 Jin. Plus look at what you're talking about. Looping 50/50s, infinites, safe 50/50 OS. Tanya is the closest in this situation simply because the way you have to guess if the grab is coming, I think you have to guess on tanya rekkas. But she has skewed risk/reward where she's barely at risk while chipping, building meter, and the possibility to break armor for full combo.
It's different in principle, but hardly different in practice. Actually, if Jason's B1~grab worked on hit, it would be better than Kotal's B1~grab working on hit because it has even better range, and the B1~grab or B122 50/50 would be unreal.
I mean, the mechanic exists in other fighting games lol. KOF off the top of the head.
By definition of my example and your response, you're proving my point lol.
Stop trying to be dave.
In the greatest Fighting Game of all time, DONG DONG NEVER DIE, Command Grabs jail on block, can combo on hit and do around 30 to 50% and you can loop them as long as you have meter.
I think I'd prefer, "On your knees..."
Your point that what? That fighting games develop by finding the best tactics and then ways to overcome, if any?
No. That whenever presented with a broken mechanic the main's of the character never say, "wow, this is incredibly silly". There have already been detailed explanations as to why it's silly, by even Sun God players, but most Kotal's will disregard it because in reality they don't want to say it out loud or are in denial because it's their character. I play Kano and admit what Commando can currently do is silly. Jupiter said what Wrestler Jax can do in the beta is outright broken. A couple of Sun God players in this very thread called it silly.
Me too
Guys, we can agree on one thing.
I already said it's pretty good. I just said it wouldn't make him jump tiers because the threat of eating a combo was always there. Same way the threat of being punished by a full combo is always there too. That's what I don't get. Why were people not scared before but scared now? I get that before there was chance at not taking 20% but Kotal always faced a way harsher punish and still does. The same fear people have, Kotal players should have too.
dude, what you're saying is wrong, cause if i decide to jump over b1 or take the hit to make you whiff db2 i'm taking the exact same risks in both decisions, wich are getting launched if you decide to commit to the string. it's not the 2% dmg of b1 that makes taking the hit a dumb thing to do, and nor does it mean that i dont respect your b1.
Command grabs worked like this, on counterhit at least, at launch and were quickly removed.
