Breakthrough - Kano [EO Beta Closed] Kano Beta Changes Discussion

[DOOMSDAY-15RUS-]

NERF back dash and gap in B1,3 looks like a strong nerf

 

[IrishMantis]

f4 is also a tic throw for commando

I thought it was too bro

It is not a tick throw unfortunately

 

[Rager Da Prince]

Commando changes are so good but I feel they won't stay

 

[FlappyDaniel]

Yo, those commando changes. We got a real character from the sounds.

 

[AK L0rdoftheFLY]

my bad...i thought it was. I could have sworn it was working when I played online.

 

[Rager Da Prince]

I might actually switch back to commando now, tho tremor has my heart.

 

[oaoo94]

Good thing I picked Kano back up.

 

[Jason Pls]

I just watched ketchup and mustard commando changes breakdown and at the end they showed air ball is now an overhead

That explains sooooooo many things lmao

 

[HuttonMD]

That explains sooooooo many things lmao

Don't get what you mean? I wasn't trying to go into what the whole video showed just what they showed that wasn't on the changes list?

If I'm reading what you meant wrong my bad its the internet and sometimes text is hard to gauge

 

[Jason Pls]

Don't get what you mean? I wasn't trying to go into what the whole video showed just what they showed that wasn't on the changes list?

If I'm reading what you meant wrong my bad its the internet and sometimes text is hard to gauge

Oh no I came here to see if Air Ball was overhead because I was preemptively blocking low in the beta and getting whapped, this actually explains it lmao my bad for making it seem sarcastic

 

[colby4898]

It can't be 50/50, mid range it's OH and full punishable, far range is low and full punishable, EX can be NJP or backdash and full combo punishable. So it's not too OP

It's pretty cool though. If you're at a dodgey range and you can't tell if it's going to hit oh or low it's basially a 50/50. and you can meter burn it for an unblockalble so it's like a 33/33/33

 

[colby4898]

Does ex buff still take 15% health away though? That's the only change cutthroat needed imo.

 

[HuttonMD]

Oh no I came here to see if Air Ball was overhead because I was preemptively blocking low in the beta and getting whapped, this actually explains it lmao my bad for making it seem sarcastic

Lol its cool I just wasn't sure if that's how you meant it or not.

 

[AK L0rdoftheFLY]

Does ex buff still take 15% health away though? That's the only change cutthroat needed imo.

yup

 

[xMEECH]

I hope they nerfed the grab damage if you combo into it.

They hit so hard lol

Jason hits harder

 

[colby4898]

yup

well that's shit.

 

[AK L0rdoftheFLY]

well that's shit.

i'm fine with it. I will always dish out more damage than I take and the chance that I get the 50/50 to hit is so great, I will usually get 40-50%.

Totally worth it.

 

[DarksydeDash]

Mother of god db1 is now safe in cutthroat..

 

[DOOMSDAY-15RUS-]

It's pretty cool though. If you're at a dodgey range and you can't tell if it's going to hit oh or low it's basially a 50/50. and you can meter burn it for an unblockalble so it's like a 33/33/33

from this range back dash can escape all 3 and full combo punish

 

[colby4898]

i'm fine with it. I will always dish out more damage than I take and the chance that I get the 50/50 to hit is so great, I will usually get 40-50%.

Totally worth it.

I agree it's worth it because I usually end the combowith a ball and debuff so I won't take the full 15% but it sucks for pressure though cos you lose more health than the opponent on chip. b12 ex buff 112 db1 = 7.86 chip damage assuming they don't armour the 112 and b12 buff 11 is a true block string. But because you're -8 (-5 now) you have to take pressure and continue to lose health. If they got rid of the DoT on ex buf it would be more useful for pressure.

 

[colby4898]

from this range back dash can escape all 3 and full combo punish

Only if they can react to an instant air air ball to backdash, otherwise they're forced to block.

 

[MK FIGHTER]

Yeah that B1 needed better hit range. Glad to know it works well now. Cutthroat Kano is a great character, very strong, very carnal in his fighting style. Cutthroat Kano is like Ninjutsu Scorpion but better.

 

[Name v.5.0]

So no one is going to freak out that in Commando you can B1~command grab on both hit, and block? That seems legit.

 

[MsMiharo]

So no one is going to freak out that in Commando you can B1~command grab on both hit, and block? That seems legit.

There's been plenty of hype but if you're suggesting it's OP, it's not.

 

[AK L0rdoftheFLY]

I agree it's worth it because I usually end the combowith a ball and debuff so I won't take the full 15% but it sucks for pressure though cos you lose more health than the opponent on chip. b12 ex buff 112 db1 = 7.86 chip damage assuming they don't armour the 112 and b12 buff 11 is a true block string. But because you're -8 (-5 now) you have to take pressure and continue to lose health. If they got rid of the DoT on ex buf it would be more useful for pressure.

I usually use it to hitconfirm his 50/50s into big damage. Your right tough if they guess right then my turn is over and i lose more health but they have to guess right first. I get 2 tries though to hurt them.

for example...
I land a d4, d3 or a db1 or a projectile and run in to start my 50/50s. Then I do one of the following combinations assuming they block everything:
b31 ex buff b31 db1 (guessing twice)
b31 ex buff b12 db1 (guessing twice)
b121 ex buff b3 or b1...both options make them guess twice.

Beauty is that if I hit confirm, I can go right into f212 for a combo and if I don't then I land the db1 and they have to guess again. If they block all that then yeah...i'm gonna lose some life but chances are that they wont block all of it more often than they do.