Vilén
too smart to play MKX
Okay, so disclaimer: we're not talking about who will go where in the tiers, but more or less how they'll be presented.
EXAMPLE: So, let's say Ermac has only one competitively viable variation, or one that just really outshines the other two to the point where everyone will just assume if you're playing Ermac, you use this variation. Whereas say, Raiden, will have three competitively viable variations and they turn him into three totally different characters, with three different placements in the hypothetical tier list.
How does this work? The only other fighter that has a variation system like this is Melty Blood with the Full/Half/Crescent moon system. What that community used to do for their tiers was to make the tier list based on the Moon-Character arrangement that gave that character the highest placement. So in this setup, if all three of Raiden's variations were functional and could work, but variations A and C land him in mid tier but Displacer Raiden is like A+ tier, Displacer Raiden would be the only Raiden listed on the tier list, even though Raiden-C is a totally different character in terms of play style.
Though I believe the MB scene sort of stopped doing this and just started using a general tier list that doesn't specify variation... and I don't really know the game well enough to understand how they go about this.
So will it be that system or will the hypothetical tier list be like:
S - Jax-B, Kenshi-A, Shinnok-C, Scorpion-B
A - Johnny-A, Scorpion-C, Ermac-C, Raiden-B, Sub-Zero-B
B - Jax-A, Ermac-B, Erron Black-A, Shinnok-A, Erron Black-B, Raiden-C
C - Sub-Zero-A, Scorpion-A
Blahblahblah, short form: you want to treat each variation like it's own character when making these lists? Sure sometimes a character might be in the same tier twice or whatever, but still worth pointing out considering a lot of these variations are going to make one character incredibly different. Or would you want the "screw it, just list version that gives the character the highest tier placement" method? Maybe hybridize it somehow.
Of course it's only like any of this matters because 1) it's a tier list and 2) it'll take like... a year to establish anything. And even then I probably still won't give a shit about it. I'm just kind of curious since this variation system has all sorts of balance implications and since this is the MK community, you damn sure know there's going to be a day 2 tier list.
EXAMPLE: So, let's say Ermac has only one competitively viable variation, or one that just really outshines the other two to the point where everyone will just assume if you're playing Ermac, you use this variation. Whereas say, Raiden, will have three competitively viable variations and they turn him into three totally different characters, with three different placements in the hypothetical tier list.
How does this work? The only other fighter that has a variation system like this is Melty Blood with the Full/Half/Crescent moon system. What that community used to do for their tiers was to make the tier list based on the Moon-Character arrangement that gave that character the highest placement. So in this setup, if all three of Raiden's variations were functional and could work, but variations A and C land him in mid tier but Displacer Raiden is like A+ tier, Displacer Raiden would be the only Raiden listed on the tier list, even though Raiden-C is a totally different character in terms of play style.
Though I believe the MB scene sort of stopped doing this and just started using a general tier list that doesn't specify variation... and I don't really know the game well enough to understand how they go about this.
So will it be that system or will the hypothetical tier list be like:
S - Jax-B, Kenshi-A, Shinnok-C, Scorpion-B
A - Johnny-A, Scorpion-C, Ermac-C, Raiden-B, Sub-Zero-B
B - Jax-A, Ermac-B, Erron Black-A, Shinnok-A, Erron Black-B, Raiden-C
C - Sub-Zero-A, Scorpion-A
Blahblahblah, short form: you want to treat each variation like it's own character when making these lists? Sure sometimes a character might be in the same tier twice or whatever, but still worth pointing out considering a lot of these variations are going to make one character incredibly different. Or would you want the "screw it, just list version that gives the character the highest tier placement" method? Maybe hybridize it somehow.
Of course it's only like any of this matters because 1) it's a tier list and 2) it'll take like... a year to establish anything. And even then I probably still won't give a shit about it. I'm just kind of curious since this variation system has all sorts of balance implications and since this is the MK community, you damn sure know there's going to be a day 2 tier list.