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Ehh I can't really see where Kano loses on screen for that MU. He outfootsies and damages both of them.
What specifically is giving you problems?
Ehh I can't really see where Kano loses on screen for that MU. He outfootsies and damages both of them.
It's kinda hard enumerate because it was my first time using Cutthroat Kano in this matchup. My main is Grandmaster Sub-Zero, and I can handle this matchup very well with him. At the beginning I had more problems with the chip damage until I could get closer, but it's more a request for tips to handle better during the match.
Yea that's kinda where I was at with it to. I just wanted to see if I was the only one who thought that way. I just Dont see it being 7-3 sub favor
Who told you that? Whoever it was clearly doesn't know the matchup lol. Cutthroat and Commando struggle a bit more than Cyber (who I'd say soft 6-4s him) but there's no way GM vs Cutthroat or GM vs Commando is 7-3.
It's rough for commando. Maybe not 7-3 but a rough 6-4 at best IMO
Yeah that's what I'm saying, they struggle a bit but not 3-7 bad.
I would say it's a lot worse for Commando than Cutthroat though. 5-5 Cyber, 6-4 CT, 7-3 Commando is my personal MU chart but I'm not that well versed in that particular MU.
Wait, you mean 4-6 and 3-7 right? 7-3 Commando confused me there lol
Yeah. Sub has a lot of buttons that causes command grabs to whiff (b2 does it quite frequently, as well as d4), knives are too slow to really help vs clone, Kano has the least range in that variation so the footsie game is hard. I'm not saying I'm 100% sure it's a 3-7 but I will say I'm 100% sure it's the worst variation vs GM sub
I just think they haven't faced many good Kano's I could be wrong but I feel the same way as you. Cyber definitely is a winning MU and ct and commando 5-5 or at worst 6-4 sub but not by much.
Lol yeah I wouldn't pick Commando for it. I'd be using parries more in the corner to reverse sides in clone pressure rather than grabs but it's still not great.
Yeah parries are great vs corner setups as if you guess right you bust the clone and get out of the corner. But since SZ can delay when he presses a button, he can bait it and get those 40+% shatter combos
Kotal says nope.
On level imo or just slightly in kotals favour
D4 and throw knives. The run cancel pressure is hard to deal with. Exupball is really all you got. Sometimes i try and yolo with an Exkanoball cancel into combo. But normally just got to take it and try and win in the neutral
It's just not that great a matchup. He outzones you so it already sucks but then he also has a great close up game too with all the pressure he can put on. Also I wouldn't bother with ex up ball, I personally never really use it, if you're going to try and get out you may as well use ex straight ball and cancel on hit to get as much damage out of the situation as you can while still being able to position yourself how you like instead of just getting a mediocre knockdown and less damage.
Commando does well but cyber better.
I actually think it could be. You're not going to win the zoning war as Cyber, may as well try and slow his pressure down as much as you can with parries.
Against Liu Kang? I disagree. I think Commando does better in this matchup the same way it does better against Tempest, better at slowing down pressure.