General/Other - Lasher Lasher Discussion Thread

[SaltShaker]

It also got a stealth nerf to it's range.

I thought it looked shorter or different but I wasn't sure.

 

[craftycheese]

I thought it looked shorter or different but I wasn't sure.

I don't know if it got shorter range, I think it's about the same. I do know that after you do the new jip, it will make your whips appear shorter.

 

[SOLEdier]

f122+4df1 112df1 in the corner is 31% meterless

Why am I only getting 27% in corner with Kotal?

 

[craftycheese]

Why am I only getting 27% in corner with Kotal?

The last df1 was height dependent to get the 31% before the patch. I hadn't messed around to see if it was still

 

[SOLEdier]

The last df1 was height dependent to get the 31% before the patch. I hadn't messed around to see if it was still

Yeah from the looks of it now, It has to be precise timing to get the double damage from both the whips from DF1.

 

[craftycheese]

Yeah from the looks of it now, It has to be precise timing to get the double damage from both the whips from DF1.

So it's confirmed that it's 27% online.

 

[Mr_Papageorgio_]

B21 range is deff. Shorter than before. D+f1 looks about the same.

 

[Ninequads93]

53% in the corner regular damage?

 

[Down 2]

53% in the corner regular damage?

With what combo??

 

[craftycheese]

B21 range is deff. Shorter than before. D+f1 looks about the same.

It is, it's also a little inconsistent at the "almost in range, to in range" distance as the string moves.

 

[Mr_Papageorgio_]

It is, it's also a little inconsistent at the "almost in range, to in range" distance as the string moves.

yup, so weird. also seems that b21 is catching alot more people trying to jump over the whips now. loving the jump in whips to but its hard to combo after them at further range.

the safe tornado kick is great. i yolo those all the time and now don't have to eat a full combo. anyone see the glitch in takedas victory pose where one of the whips doesnt come out?

 

[craftycheese]

I just wanted to make sure this was known, but the new air attack can be used

yup, so weird. also seems that b21 is catching alot more people trying to jump over the whips now. loving the jump in whips to but its hard to combo after them at further range.

the safe tornado kick is great. i yolo those all the time and now don't have to eat a full combo. anyone see the glitch in takedas victory pose where one of the whips doesnt come out?

I never noticed that. I just know the whips glitch and are shorter after you do the new jump attack. Doesn't affect the range I don't believe, just a cosmetic thing.

 

[S1eepyK]

yup, so weird. also seems that b21 is catching alot more people trying to jump over the whips now. loving the jump in whips to but its hard to combo after them at further range.

the safe tornado kick is great. i yolo those all the time and now don't have to eat a full combo. anyone see the glitch in takedas victory pose where one of the whips doesnt come out?

You can combo the jump in whips with b1,1 into specials.... still playing with it, it is not a true block string but the frames are generous enough that you can hit confirm before imputing b1 to keep you pretty safe.

 

[PND_Ketchup]

So what's the verdict on Lasher guys?

 

[MrProfDrPepper]

So what's the verdict on Lasher guys?

To be honest I think it is highly under rated and miles better than shirai ryu. But to be fair I am scolded for thinking that and get labeled as an up player for it

 

[aieches]

i think now we have a fighting chance in all three variations.

 

[Mr_Papageorgio_]

So what's the verdict on Lasher guys?

As an average player who has used all 3 variations I still think its the worst one. It shines in b21 range and that's about it. Sr can do everything pretty well and ronin's pressure is much better.

 

[zaccbarias]

hi! whats your combo ender of choice in lasher? thanks!

 

[Mr_Papageorgio_]

hi! whats your combo ender of choice in lasher? thanks!

Df1 for me usually. Others use bf2. Tornado kick if you can for a hard knock down.

 

[SOLEdier]

Df1 for me usually. Others use bf2. Tornado kick if you can for a hard knock down.

I'll do bf2 mid screen and df1 if i am i can get the opponent from mid screen to the corner because I can do another d1 xx db2 for more damage.

Example: Bnb B21 xx exBF2, njp, 44 xx bf2 in mid screen. If I am close to the corner I'll do 44 xx df1, d1 xx db2.

 

[Krabman]

If someone can master the spacing and utilizing the new jump in to its full potential lasher seems pretty scary.

 

[ATIWAB]

If someone can master the spacing and utilizing the new jump in to its full potential lasher seems pretty scary.

The new jump in is garbage in my experience, hits mid 90% of the time instead of OH, defeats the purpose of JI on crouch blocking opponents, might as well just go b21 on them instead and keep your spacing advantage rather than fail a jip44 attempt and get wrecked for it.

 

[Ninequads93]

55% combo

 

[craftycheese]

The new jump in is garbage in my experience, hits mid 90% of the time instead of OH, defeats the purpose of JI on crouch blocking opponents, might as well just go b21 on them instead and keep your spacing advantage rather than fail a jip44 attempt and get wrecked for it.

I find the new jump punch works better while jumping backwards to keep space. Jumping forward doesn't give you much advantage for the reasons you said and you can't really do anything when you do connect. I kind of think of the move as a mid air poke.

EDIT:
Also, make sure you jump in with 2 instead of 1. More advantage on hit which will lead to b1 and b2 combo-ing, even when you use the move jumping backwards (from like right up on the opponent) or jumping in from distance. Jumping in from distance always seems to put you in b1 range whereas jumping back from as close as possible only will put you in b1 range if you hit. You're always in b2 range.

 

[Ninequads93]

Hard blockables loop

45% one bar corner