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Bombardier777

I'll bleed you, real quick.
I held the block button when I did the record thing so yeah you can punish him with that move

And thanks for the advice, I don't go for B12 after a teleport online specially when there's lag, and in the first match against reptile it was pretty laggy
 

Enkindu

Noob
One nice thing I've noticed about f34 is that on hit, Ermac will disappear off the screen edge for a quick second. I will use this moment to go into levitate and drop a low on them before they can tell what's about to happen. There might be other useful things for this too.
 

Temjiin

www.mkxframedata.com
One nice thing I've noticed about f34 is that on hit, Ermac will disappear off the screen edge for a quick second. I will use this moment to go into levitate and drop a low on them before they can tell what's about to happen. There might be other useful things for this too.
Pls break Ermac like you did Voldo.
 

jharris

I'm not surprised, motherfuckers
You can do this or simply do a soul ball into a combo


Also, some online gameplay, let me know what you think
work on connecting your f4 after ex tele and your jump kick to tele link, dropped it quite a few times. also throw some b12 ins for pressure and b34/b321 for mix ups. sorry if i got some of the inputs wrong!
 

Bombardier777

I'll bleed you, real quick.
work on connecting your f4 after ex tele and your jump kick to tele link, dropped it quite a few times. also throw some b12 ins for pressure and b34/b321 for mix ups. sorry if i got some of the inputs wrong!
I think I dropped it there because online, I never drop it in practice or towers...
 

Temjiin

www.mkxframedata.com
I think I dropped it there because online, I never drop it in practice or towers...
I've found this works well as an 'online' combo.... it's a sad state of affairs that I even have to say that but quite a lot of the time I don't want to teleport in combos for fear of missing out on 15-20%. Offline is no problem.

 

Afumba

Noob
Are you able to make a video? I'e been trying this for half an hour, maybe it's because his run/dash aren't the best but I find the insane pushback stops a meterless punish.
Sry videos are not my thing. Just to clarify "Bo Swat" is the Golfswing not the spinning thingy.
For the high spinning one nothing works but tkl/ex tkl & tkp/ex tkp. So sry if there was any confusion... I use to call them "high spin, low spin & golfswing" :D.. all this "Bo" talk is too confusing to remember which is which :p

Anyways here what works for MoS and Mystic agains Bojutsu Kung Jins specials:

Flying Kick (bf3) = Reversal TKL/ex TKL, Reversal TKP/ex TKP, 222, 114, 11, b12, f4, b3, f3, f21d2
ex Flying Kick = Reversal TKL/ex TKL, Reversal TKP/ex TKP, 222, 114, 11, b12, f4, b3, f3, f21d2

Bo Swat (bf4) = Reversal TKL/ex TKL, Reversal TKP/ex TKP, Reversal SoulBall, 222, 114, 11, b12, f4, b3, f3, f21d2 (everything but TKL/TKP whiffs if Bo Swat is done at max range)
ex Bo Swat = Reversal TKL/ex TKL, Reversal TKP/ex TKP, Reversal SoulBall, 222, 114, 11, b12, f4, b3, f3, f21d2 (everything but TKL/TKP whiffs if Bo Swat is done at max range)

Bo Swing (db3) = Reversal SoulBall, Reversal TKL/ex TKL, Reversal TKP/ex TKP, Reversal Teleport/ex-Teleport, all strings
ex Bo Swing = Reversal TKL/ex TKL, Reversal TKP/ex TKP,

Low Bo Swing (bd3) = Reversal TKL/ex TKL, Reversal TKP/ex TKP, 222, b12, f4, b3, f3, f21d2, (at Low Bo Swing max range only TKL and TKP works,everything else whiffs)
ex Low Bo Swing = Reversal SoulBall, Reversal TKL/ex TKL, Reversal TKP/ex TKP, Reversal Teleport/ex-Teleport, f4; other launches can punish it if close enough but whiff if Low Bo Swing is done at max range

Cartwheel Drop (db4) = Reversal TKL/ex TKL, Reversal TKP/ex TKP, 222, 114, 11, b12, f4, b3, f3, f21d2
ex Cartwheel Drop = safe; immediately throwing him after blocking only gets beat by him jumping

Dive Kick = everything
ex Dive kick = nothing

List doesnt include his projectiles. Didnt see any reason to write it up for them.
 

Temjiin

www.mkxframedata.com
Sry videos are not my thing. Just to clarify "Bo Swat" is the Golfswing not the spinning thingy.
For the high spinning one nothing works but tkl/ex tkl & tkp/ex tkp. So sry if there was any confusion... I use to call them "high spin, low spin & golfswing" :D.. all this "Bo" talk is too confusing to remember which is which :p

Anyways here what works for MoS and Mystic agains Bojutsu Kung Jins specials:

Flying Kick (bf3) = Reversal TKL/ex TKL, Reversal TKP/ex TKP, 222, 114, 11, b12, f4, b3, f3, f21d2
ex Flying Kick = Reversal TKL/ex TKL, Reversal TKP/ex TKP, 222, 114, 11, b12, f4, b3, f3, f21d2

Bo Swat (bf4) = Reversal TKL/ex TKL, Reversal TKP/ex TKP, Reversal SoulBall, 222, 114, 11, b12, f4, b3, f3, f21d2 (everything but TKL/TKP whiffs if Bo Swat is done at max range)
ex Bo Swat = Reversal TKL/ex TKL, Reversal TKP/ex TKP, Reversal SoulBall, 222, 114, 11, b12, f4, b3, f3, f21d2 (everything but TKL/TKP whiffs if Bo Swat is done at max range)

Bo Swing (db3) = Reversal SoulBall, Reversal TKL/ex TKL, Reversal TKP/ex TKP, Reversal Teleport/ex-Teleport, all strings
ex Bo Swing = Reversal TKL/ex TKL, Reversal TKP/ex TKP,

Low Bo Swing (bd3) = Reversal TKL/ex TKL, Reversal TKP/ex TKP, 222, b12, f4, b3, f3, f21d2, (at Low Bo Swing max range only TKL and TKP works,everything else whiffs)
ex Low Bo Swing = Reversal SoulBall, Reversal TKL/ex TKL, Reversal TKP/ex TKP, Reversal Teleport/ex-Teleport, f4; other launches can punish it if close enough but whiff if Low Bo Swing is done at max range

Cartwheel Drop (db4) = Reversal TKL/ex TKL, Reversal TKP/ex TKP, 222, 114, 11, b12, f4, b3, f3, f21d2
ex Cartwheel Drop = safe; immediately throwing him after blocking only gets beat by him jumping

Dive Kick = everything
ex Dive kick = nothing

List doesnt include his projectiles. Didnt see any reason to write it up for them.
Oh shit sorry I meant EX DB3. Yeah I didn't think he could do anything without meter. I think the problem is as much his run/dash speed as the pushback. Good to know it's not just my shit execution that was the problem ha
 

Afumba

Noob
hehe no need to apologize :) Not our fault that they didnt give them cooler names :D

Yea the pushback is annoying... but even if you have to use meter its still worth it. He used a bar too and got blown up for it :)
Even more annoying is his ex divekick though.... hate it.
 

Temjiin

www.mkxframedata.com

Some nice ways to close out a round if someone thinks they can yolo with 2 bars to spare.
 
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Temjiin

www.mkxframedata.com

Doubt this is of any use in high level play but if you don't tech the grab and guess wrong/don't poke out this is 46% unbreakable for 2 bars, I think 48% if you go for F4 again.
 
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Afumba

Noob
well if you are looking for unbreakable damage....

you can do these
f4~SoulBall, SoulRelease, SoulBurst Up, xray = 47% 3Bars
f4~SoulBall, SoulRelease, ex SoulBurst up, ex TKL, ex Burst = 37% 3 Bars (i know... you can just xray for more damage... but swag :D)
f4~SoulBall, SoulRelease, ex SoulBurst up, ex TKL, SoulBurst = 35% 2 Bars
f4~SoulBall, SoulRelease, ex SoulBurst up, SoulBurst = 33% 1 Bar
f4~SoulBall, SoulRelease, SoulBurst up, ex tkl, SoulBurst = 32% 1 Bar
f4~SoulBall, SoulRelease, ex SoulBurst up, lift = 31% 1 Bar
f4~SoulBall, SoulRelease, SoulBurst Up, Soulburst = 31% no Bar
f4~SoulBall, SoulRelease, SoulBurst Up, lift = 28% no Bars

take your pick :) The once with 2 Soulburst at the end work only in the corner
 
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wait a sec guys, it just suddenly occurred to me, so what is ermac in mkx, an anti zoner? hahahhahaha
just the thought of it makes me wanna laugh,
ermac. the anti zoner. smoke of mkx ;DDDDDDDDDDD
im talking about mos obvsl
 

Error

DF2+R2
What would you guys think if Spectral Ermac lift launched and EX had armor and had an air dash/back dash.

And

Mystic push was made -14 and ex -5

Plus B1 was made to hit mid consistently?
 

Icy Black Deep

Still training...
That's all well and good, but do realize you're basically saying "this flight thing is just no way no how gonna work, let's just do something else."




I'm not saying you're wrong though.
 

Error

DF2+R2
That's all well and good, but do realize you're basically saying "this flight thing is just no way no how gonna work, let's just do something else."



I'm not saying you're wrong though.
I mean air dashes off of flight so he has real air mobility, don't know what else they could do to better it.
 

Icy Black Deep

Still training...
I mean air dashes off of flight so he has real air mobility, don't know what else they could do to better it.
No, don't care for that. The inputs for air-dashing when you're not already flying would be pretty crazy. Air dashing when you're already flying might help a little but I'm not sure it would be a big difference. Mobility is nice and all, but what's he doing from the air in the first place?
 
No, don't care for that. The inputs for air-dashing when you're not already flying would be pretty crazy. Air dashing when you're already flying might help a little but I'm not sure it would be a big difference. Mobility is nice and all, but what's he doing from the air in the first place?
trolling from high ground.