Video/Tutorial - Takeda How to Deal with Takeda f12 2+4 cancel pressure.

[Wetdoba]

i realize that but like you said thats more of a community issue, next time i'll put the variation in the title just for you okay babe?

Yeah it is a community thing just saw this as a good time for a mini rant was all

 

[Zoidberg747]

Can you not backdash after the tele cancel? It wont work at all times obviously but I catch people with that sometimes.

Your also only using f12 in your example. I try and mixup my pressure as follows:
F12 2+4 kunai/tele cancel
F1 2+4 kunai/tele cancel

I find if you are getting blown up f1 2+4 catches people off guard and when you mix it up between those two they have to be on point to punish you.

If they try and blow you up after tele cancels you could just delay the tele for a bit then if they try and do something release it and have the tele hit BUT that is super risky and really hard to do in a real match lol.

 

[Wemfs]

Does this have anything to do with what you're talking about, Zyphox? About the gaps in the string and what not.

 

[Zoidberg747]

Does this have anything to do with what you're talking about, Zyphox? About the gaps in the string and what not.

Yeah that covers it pretty nicely.

 

[Chaosphere]

I think zyphox is keeping it classy here and any attempts to blow him up for this thread is a little immature. Like, coming in to blow him up for losing against raptor in casuals is a little silly.... unless there's some other drama going on that I'm unaware of.

 

[STB Shujinkydink]

I think zyphox is keeping it classy here and any attempts to blow him up for this thread is a little immature. Like, coming in to blow him up for losing against raptor in casuals is a little silly.... unless there's some other drama going on that I'm unaware of.

I would blow him up because he was telling ppl redraptor was playing a day 1 takeda and that's the only reason he made top 8. Cause that makes sense.

 

[Zyphox]

a) The move takes up half the screen. How are some characters supposed to get in if it doesn't have some sort of weakness? You complain about how bad it is on whiff but my God if you somehow get that thing to whiff that's your bad.

b) They have to have meter. This isn't Injustice where meter is abundant. It's a lot more precious in this game.

c) f12 is hit confirmable into the 2+4. If they know you can armor through and you see they are ducking blocking, just don't do the the 2+4 after.

d) You can also f1 into 2+4, making it it even harder to react to being able to armor through since it's a single hit into the 2+4.

e) Since they have to be pretty committed to duck blocking in order to armor through this string, that opens up his b21 overhead for big damage.

Takeda is fine. You were wrong.

okay so why couldn't you post this instead of your previous post? no you went out of your way to try and blow me up, what have i done to you that makes you hate me?

A)did you watch the video?
B) did you take an objective look at everything displayed? i don't think so because you are still on this fucking notion that i'm complaining about my character, can you do like elsa and just let it go?

I said i was wrong at Combo Breaker to the people that matter, you saying it now really does nothing, its not even a blow up if i know i'm wrong myself lol.

your kind of post makes people never even want to post on here again after being wrong, i came in this thread to give props and show options against this string YOU HOWEVER took is as me complaining about this string and trying to get it fixed (i only suggested it in the video, not complain about it). its all about perspective, why not next time just come into the thread with an open mind instead of focusing on the negative?

my literal point was to show options in the string, not once did i saw takeda was bad because this move was punishable, but encouraged the community to find other options in the event that takeda cannot do this safely, but i'm the bad guy here right? smh.

 

[Chaosphere]

I would blow him up because he was telling ppl redraptor was playing a day 1 takeda and that's the only reason he made top 8. Cause that makes sense.

Fuck well forget everything I said in my last post.

 

[Zyphox]

I would blow him up because he was telling ppl redraptor was playing a day 1 takeda and that's the only reason he made top 8. Cause that makes sense.

WTF that was trepound going around saying that bro, don't even try to say that it was me saying that shit, when trepound lost to him thats what he was saying and i was defending repraptor, SMH TYM never fucking change.

 

[Zyphox]

Fuck well forget everything I said in my last post.

again i never said that ever, seriously i'm about done with this fucking community @Trepound380 can you confirm that it was you who said this not me? ask anyone who i was hanging out with at combo breaker, those words never came out of my mouth. smfh.

 

[Chaosphere]

again i never said that ever, seriously i'm about done with this fucking community @Trepound380 can you confirm that it was you who said this not me? ask anyone who i was hanging out with at combo breaker, those words never came out of my mouth. smfh.

Fuck well forget everything I said in my last post.

You guys, who do I believe? I'm sick today. Stop ruining my life.

 

[Zoidberg747]

Can we stop focusing on the drama and start focusing on the tech?

@Zyphox I want to know what you think of mine and slips options. Are they viable or not?

 

[Zyphox]

Fuck well forget everything I said in my last post.

You guys, who do I believe? I'm sick today. Stop ruining my life.

if i were to have said something like that trust me i would not deny it, i've called out plenty of people and speak my mind, look at my track record. i also admit i am wrong and even conceded that i was indeed free at combo breaker to blind ducky to his face. this is a case of miscommunication, you can again ask anyone i talked to, i was mostly silent about anything takeda while at combo breaker and gave huge props to redraptor, and never did i ever say he had a day 1 takeda, but will happily blow up tre for saying that because it was him who did so. tre was just salty he lost to him, he also said sonicfox got lucky..... just sayin man.

 

[Eldriken]

Today on "As TYM Turns"...

 

[Zyphox]

Today on "As TYM Turns"...

isn't it funny when someone says another person said something else?

 

[Slips]

okay so why couldn't you post this instead of your previous post? no you went out of your way to try and blow me up, what have i done to you that makes you hate me?

A)did you watch the video?
B) did you take an objective look at everything displayed? i don't think so because you are still on this fucking notion that i'm complaining about my character, can you do like elsa and just let it go?

I said i was wrong at Combo Breaker to the people that matter, you saying it now really does nothing, its not even a blow up if i know i'm wrong myself lol.

your kind of post makes people never even want to post on here again after being wrong, i came in this thread to give props and show options against this string YOU HOWEVER took is as me complaining about this string and trying to get it fixed (i only suggested it in the video, not complain about it). its all about perspective, why not next time just come into the thread with an open mind instead of focusing on the negative?

my literal point was to show options in the string, not once did i saw takeda was bad because this move was punishable, but encouraged the community to find other options in the event that takeda cannot do this safely, but i'm the bad guy here right? smh.

True I was purposely being a dick. Whether you are gracious to Raptor or not, it's hard to deny the timeline of you saying Takeda isn't good and not tournament viable, to then be proven wrong by Ratpror's top 8 placement, to then making a video on how to blow up his strats for the entire community to see. It's a passive aggressive jab at him and I wasn't going to allow it whether it was intentional or not. I mean, haven't you already made a video about this in the very first thread you made with why you thought Takeda wasn't good? Why make a whole other thread about it then if not to try to somewhat tarnish Raptor's performance? And wouldn't you, as a Takeda player, NOT want this to be common knowledge? This whole thread just seems too fishy to me.

We all know how bitter you were when Honeybee surpassed you with Flash in Injustice. RedRaptor's been a part of this community since MK9. He's a good player, smart guy, contributes good information on these forums and he's from the same city as I am so I feel the need to defend him.

Sure maybe I came on a little too strong and started this thread off being an asshole, but you were the one who was wrong about your character to begin with and spreading lies about your character's viability. You are just as guilty as me in this thread.

 

[ryublaze]

Does this have anything to do with what you're talking about, Zyphox? About the gaps in the string and what not.

Man I was going to post that video... damn you @Wemfs !!!

@Zyphox i love you but Takeda does have options to blow up armor (see video above). You have to counter their armor with your own but if it gets blocked then ggs. It basically turns it into a 50/50 situation for both players. Some characters armor are so slow that you can do a tele cancel and block in time to punish.

If they are looking to armor out, you can just do f12 and go from there. They can OS armor after f12 (either blocking the next hit of the string or armoring right after f12) but then you can just do f12 then block and punish.

For Quan you don't have to worry about his armor because it gets stuffed by kunai.

Some characters can't even armor through because their armor comes out so slow. This includes: Ferra/Torr, Kotal Kahn and Goro

They can backdash but you are pretty much safe midscreen. In the corner, they can blow you up but if you do a tele cancel you can do the same.

Like others have said, you can also throw in f12+4 to mix them up, and some characters can't armor through it at point blank range.

I don't think this really hurts Takeda, it just evolves the meta. If you watch my matches vs. King I attempted to blow up his armor with EX Fist Flurry but I guessed wrong and he ended up blocking it. I tried it again the 2nd time he armored through my string but it didn't come out.

 

[HomeLee1121]

True I was purposely being a dick. Whether you are gracious to Raptor or not, it's hard to deny the timeline of you saying Takeda isn't good and not tournament viable, to then be proven wrong by Ratpror's top 8 placement, to then making a video on how to blow up his strats for the entire community to see. It's a passive aggressive jab at him and I wasn't going to allow it whether it was intentional or not. I mean, haven't you already made a video about this in the very first thread you made with why you thought Takeda wasn't good? Why make a whole other thread about it then if not to try to somewhat tarnish Raptor's performance? And wouldn't you, as a Takeda player, NOT want this to be common knowledge? This whole thread just seems too fishy to me.

We all know how bitter you were when Honeybee surpassed you with Flash in Injustice. RedRaptor's been a part of this community since MK9. He's a good player, smart guy, contributes good information on these forums and he's from the same city as I am so I feel the need to defend him.

Sure maybe I came on a little too strong and started this thread off being an asshole, but you were the one who was wrong about your character to begin with and spreading lies about your character's viability. You are just as guilty as me in this thread.

Its like all the takeda players are Slip's students.

Redraptor is the favorite student and master slips praises and defends them.

Then theres zyphox the student that sensei slips likes to talk down on and tell him that his best student is better than him....but he's only doing this so zyphox will level up.

Then there's me....sitting in the corner...taking notes....unnoticed......SENPAI PLZ NOTICE ME.

 

[CrimsonShadow]

Its like all the takeda players are Slip's students.

Redraptor is the favorite student and master slips praises and defends them.

Then theres zyphox the student that sensei slips likes to talk down on and tell him that his best student is better than him....but he's only doing this so zyphox will level up.

Then there's me....sitting in the corner...taking notes....unnoticed......SENPAI PLZ NOTICE ME.

To be fair, Slips is also a wanted Scorpion Downplayer with a rap sheet a mile long

 

[haketh]

Sure maybe I came on a little too strong and started this thread off being an asshole, but you were the one who was wrong about your character to begin with and spreading lies about your character's viability. You are just as guilty as me in this thread.

Holy fuck he was possibly wrong about the character being viable or not, can we just fucking discuss the options presented int he vid & stop wasting time with blowups?

 

[xInfra Deadx]

This thread got bodied.

 

[Zyphox]

Can we stop focusing on the drama and start focusing on the tech?

@Zyphox I want to know what you think of mine and slips options. Are they viable or not?

i like the ideas man, this is why i made the thread, i do not know everything

True I was purposely being a dick. Whether you are gracious to Raptor or not, it's hard to deny the timeline of you saying Takeda isn't good and not tournament viable, to then be proven wrong by Ratpror's top 8 placement, to then making a video on how to blow up his strats for the entire community to see. It's a passive aggressive jab at him and I wasn't going to allow it whether it was intentional or not. I mean, haven't you already made a video about this in the very first thread you made with why you thought Takeda wasn't good? Why make a whole other thread about it then if not to try to somewhat tarnish Raptor's performance? And wouldn't you, as a Takeda player, NOT want this to be common knowledge? This whole thread just seems too fishy to me.

We all know how bitter you were when Honeybee surpassed you with Flash in Injustice. RedRaptor's been a part of this community since MK9. He's a good player, smart guy, contributes good information on these forums and he's from the same city as I am so I feel the need to defend him.

Sure maybe I came on a little too strong and started this thread off being an asshole, but you were the one who was wrong about your character to begin with and spreading lies about your character's viability. You are just as guilty as me in this thread.

talk to 16 bit, talk to anyone who i was with at Combo Breaker and you will realize that you are wrong about me, i have grown up since the INJ days of trying to be the best flash or best takeda or whatever, and people who really know me, KNOW that i am not passive aggressive, i don't do that pussy shit. if really felt some way about repraptor getting top 8 with these strats i would have made a huge deal about it. i would have tried to blow up and discredit his opponents confrontational, but i digress this was not my intention. redraptor was downplaying himself all weekend while i stood there and told him he was a good player, you can ask him this yourself.

also about spreading lies, Lying implies that the information is objective. if i THINK takeda sucks does not mean i am lying when he turns out to be good. just means i was wrong and i admitted to everyone at combo breaker, just not on here or publicly because 16 bit gave me good advice on sharing my opinions on forums and what it does and i tried to stop that, hence why i did complain at all about takeda since combo breaker (you can ask him yourself if he told me this, and i was trying to take it to heart).

 

[Malices' World]

Hello, Im fairly new here but, im just curious if you were to if you were to jf2, 44, db1, would you stall too long to string along f1, 2+4

 

[haketh]

Snip

One thing I'm liking about Lasher is that Flurry hits fast enough to stop most armor attacks without meter, need to figure which ones all lose to Meterless Flurry & which ones win like Jax Dash punch.

 

[Bugman]

again i never said that ever, seriously i'm about done with this fucking community @Trepound380 can you confirm that it was you who said this not me? ask anyone who i was hanging out with at combo breaker, those words never came out of my mouth. smfh.

This community is dumb then a hamster. @Zyphox right about @Trepound380. He was salty when he said I lost to a day one Takeda playing at Combo Breaker. He was right behind me saying that that Takeda player was basic and scrub.