Guide - Full Auto How to deal with Full Auto Jacqui

[RM_NINfan101]

Lol I just lost to one of these players.
Couldn't use any of my moves, couldn't jump. everything I tried I got hit no matter what, if I jumped I got an EX rocket after that.
I feel stupid for losing to something like that but honestly it's fast, and there are multiple projectiles.
It isn't the easiest thing to beat, especially online where the slightest lag be it even a couple of frames can screw up your entire timing.

There are ways around it, but I honestly feel the delay between shots is too short.
Not demanding a nerf here, but it's probably the hardest projectile to actually dodge.
I have no issues with other types of zoning actually.

I really don't want NRS nerfing moves because of netcode, period.

 

[Heartwire]

I really don't want NRS nerfing moves because of netcode, period.

You didn't read my second to last line did you?

All in all, I don't get how players get any enjoyment out of playing like that to be honest.
But whatever.

 

[Eldriken]

You didn't read my second to last line did you?

All in all, I don't get how players get any enjoyment out of playing like that to be honest.
But whatever.

To each their own, dude. If that's what I have to do to win, then so be it. But it's not the ONLY thing I will do. I love hitting people with her combos because they look so painful. Her bf4 is my favorite move in the game to watch.

 

[Eldriken]

Someone just said on the NWM stream that Jacqui is broken because she has so many strings that are neutral on block. LMFAO I guess I'll need to make a "How To" thread for that next.

 

[Heartwire]

To each their own, dude. If that's what I have to do to win, then so be it. But it's not the ONLY thing I will do. I love hitting people with her combos because they look so painful. Her bf4 is my favorite move in the game to watch.

That's the thing, it was the only thing this person was doing.
I understand zoning, but there is a difference between zoning and blatantly spamming.
Even when I got close still only full auto's came out.

 

[RM_NINfan101]

You didn't read my second to last line did you?

All in all, I don't get how players get any enjoyment out of playing like that to be honest.
But whatever.

We play to win, whether you have fun dealing with what we dish out at you is tbh none of our concern, but this thread is mainly to help people understard you can get through this variation's zoning. Cybernetic Kano would get to you even worse. And I did read your second line, I was just saying overall I do not want the game touched because of NRS unable to make, god forbid, a good netcode.

 

[Smoke_Of_Finland]

Double normal gun fire can be instant run cancelled after neutral ducking the first gunshots into a sweep if you time it right, she will get the 2nd shooting sequence started but by that time you are already ducking under it with your sweep and punishing her consequently. Not sure if it works with everyone but it works for Kano.

 

[Heartwire]

We play to win, whether you have fun dealing with what we dish out at you is tbh none of our concern, but this thread is mainly to help people understard you can get through this variation's zoning. Cybernetic Kano would get to you even worse. And I did read your second line, I was just saying overall I do not want the game touched because of NRS unable to make, god forbid, a good netcode.

You make it sound like you are one of the people that actually plays like that.
But I'll give you the benefit of the doubt.

Of course everyone plays to win, you can't really deny that, it's a fighting game after all, and losing is never enjoyable.
But it's just annoying if you lose to the lamest tactics imaginable, and I for one can never understand how people not get bored already by playing like that.
It is my concern if people play like that against me, I play to win too, but I at least expect some form of an enjoyable match when if I get defeated I can admit that I got beat by a better player and not someone who has a bare minimum understanding of the game.

Long story short, you know how frustrating it is if you lose to someone like that.
While you spend hours and hours in practice mode perfecting your combo's learning your BnB's etc etc, only to lose to someone like that?
My initial point was that I was pissed off I suppose.

 

[Pterodactyl]

While it certainly isn't broken it's undoubtedly tedious as fuck to deal with, more so that anything else in the game right now, and it's definitely much worse online where timing is variable. You can deal with it but it shouldn't be this stupid, DS wasn't even this dumb.

As someone who uses shotgun Jacqui it feels like the game is just daring me to take the easy way out and get into a super lame projectile battles.

If they nerf it I don't really care, I don't use that variation anyway and I rarely fight her outside of a friend who exclusively mains her.

I wouldn't cry for "normalization" though.

 

[RM_NINfan101]

You make it sound like you are one of the people that actually plays like that.
But I'll give you the benefit of the doubt.

Of course everyone plays to win, you can't really deny that, it's a fighting game after all, and losing is never enjoyable.
But it's just annoying if you lose to the lamest tactics imaginable, and I for one can never understand how people not get bored already by playing like that.
It is my concern if people play like that against me, I play to win too, but I at least expect some form of an enjoyable match when if I get defeated I can admit that I got beat by a better player and not someone who has a bare minimum understanding of the game.

Long story short, you know how frustrating it is if you lose to someone like that.
While you spend hours and hours in practice mode perfecting your combo's learning your BnB's etc etc, only to lose to someone like that?
My initial point was that I was pissed off I suppose.

That's because I am, I play Necromancer Shinnok and I don't want you anywhere near me. To me, fighting games are more of an exercise of the brain. If I'm getting zoned out, I never complain. Because that's just how you play fighting games, you learn how to adapt and manifest. If you lose to zoning, you lost to a better player, no option selects for excuses. The game is way more about combos, it's about neutral, spacing, whiff punishing, making reads on your opponent.

In short, get good. This may sound cold, but I was told the same shit when I was starting to play MK9 at 19. Now I'm 23, and love fighting games more than anything else in the world.

 

[OG Mannimal]

Really? This characters doodoo zoning is the one that the scrubs complain about? Not Quan Chi's sexy-ass Summoner zoning?

 

[Pterodactyl]

That's because I am, I play Necromancer Shinnok and I don't want you anywhere near me. To me, fighting games are more of an exercise of the brain. If I'm getting zoned out, I never complain. Because that's just how you play fighting games, you learn how to adapt and manifest. If you lose to zoning, you lost to a better player, no option selects for excuses. The game is way more about combos, it's about neutral, spacing, whiff punishing, making reads on your opponent.

In short, get good. This may sound cold, but I was told the same shit when I was starting to play MK9 at 19. Now I'm 23, and love fighting games more than anything else in the world.

I appreciate good zoning, I've mained zoning and trap character before, but this is just a lame and braindead projectile.

It's not even hard to deal with once you get the timing down but that doesn't change what's so bad about it.

I'd rather be fighting a good Necromancer Shinnok or Summoner Quan Chi, where it feels like i'm actually having a battle whilst getting in, not playing machine-gun limbo.

the gun is not hard to deal with but boy is it fucking lame.

Well, depending on who you fight, I've fought a guy who actually knew how to make it interesting, with good timing on the anti-air missiles and the low rocket, and MB machine-gun, shit felt interesting.

 

[RM_NINfan101]

I appreciate good zoning, I've mained zoning and trap character before, but this is just a lame and braindead projectile.

It's not even hard to deal with once you get the timing down but that doesn't change what's so bad about it.

I'd rather be fighting a good Necromancer Shinnok or Summoner Quan Chi, where it feels like i'm actually having a battle whilst getting in, not playing machine-gun limbo.

the gun is not hard to deal with but boy is it fucking lame.

Well, depending on who you fight, I've fought a guy who actually knew how to make it interesting, with good timing on the anti-air missiles and the low rocket, and MB machine-gun, shit felt interesting.

Believe me, you'd rather fight Full Auto Jacqui or Necromancer Shinnok than Cybernetic Kano or Summoner Quan, they gain way more meter for just tossing stuff you HAVE to block.

 

[Pterodactyl]

Believe me, you'd rather fight Full Auto Jacqui or Necromancer Shinnok than Cybernetic Kano or Summoner Quan, they gain way more meter for just tossing stuff you HAVE to block.

Haven't fought a single Kano yet, so I can't comment on him.

Heard he was pretty scary though.

 

[Dyzvhtynzal]

I've said this before and i'll say it again. If you're complaining about spam, you're probably just not good to begin with. Practice and you'll be fine. I suspect most people arent really whining but just like discussing jacqui, so that's cool. Spammers dont bother me. I played enough fighting games to know how to handle them. What annoys me more are the people who incessantly shout over the mic "When is somebody gonna beat this scrub?" after their 20th win, or, lol, people who bark instructions on how to play. Lol, i listened to a few people 'teach' others what to do. I guess it's more funny than annoying now that i think about it.

 

[KleenexGhost]

I played 2 Jacquis. Both were using full auto. I had success when I was able to stay in. The first was catching me with wake-up dash punch, but Cage can low profile that with crouching 4. The second one was just using the guns. Honestly, I killed myself. I got impatient and wanted to go in and hit buttons.

 

[Prinz]

@Eldriken How is it playing against Jaqui's full auto projectile in comparison to Deathstroke's if Doomsday was in MKX?

 

[Eldriken]

@Eldriken How is it playing against Jaqui's full auto projectile in comparison to Deathstroke's vs Doomsday?

Doomsday had MB Venom and rightfully didn't give two squirts of piss about Deathstroke's guns, lol.

Nothing of the sort can be said for any character against Jacqui outside of teleports. =P

 

[Pig Of The Hut]

Mustard and I made this for newer players that have issues with mindless Jacqui players.

Feels like Deathstroke all over again, people just don't wanna be patient!

Not an issue for me as I have MB rune, but whatevs m8

Fantastic video

Hopefully cry babies watch this

good stuff

 

[Kinetic Balding1]

People complain about jaqui's zoning when you got kano who zones even better.

 

[Prinz]

Doomsday had MB Venom and rightfully didn't give two squirts of piss about Deathstroke's guns, lol.

Nothing of the sort can be said for any character against Jacqui outside of teleports. =P

What about counterzoning? Man, I gotta get the game. I want to ram this bitch so bad. The most I liked about Doomsday was how I could bully zoners to death. I enjoyed it so much.

 

[Mortal Komhat]

Someone just said on the NWM stream that Jacqui is broken because she has so many strings that are neutral on block. LMFAO I guess I'll need to make a "How To" thread for that next.

all of her cancelable strings are neutral on block with HT

 

[Kinetic Balding1]

Jaqui doesn't have good zoning. Just duck without blocking and when they mb the machine gun, you can jump it.

 

[Mortal Komhat]

Most of them don't even MB the machine gun anyway.

 

[Prinz]

Mustard and I made this for newer players that have issues with mindless Jacqui players.

Feels like Deathstroke all over again, people just don't wanna be patient!

Not an issue for me as I have MB rune, but whatevs m8

This video should be posted on Evevnthubs and the like. They need it. Don't know if they deserve it