NaughtySenpai
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I think we had a better chance to see positive changes to Scorpion if you weren't the one talking about it.
He can just keep running away.....even against Jaded.......he has the full screen spear to harass and can just poof teleport away at any moment. He can pretend to jump in and last minute teleport. Even her zoning variation.....throw a slow projectile .....and he teleports in immediately. When I try to run in full screen even with pole vault......he teleports or neutral jumps. Its an extremely frustrating match up because Jade has very low damage and up close is terrible. Scorpion wins this one.That MU isn’t even bad anymore. He can’t lock her down because TP is a high.
At the highest level one could argue that she wins that MU.
I think Jade is better than Scorpion.He can just keep running away.....even against Jaded.......he has the full screen spear to harass and can just poof teleport away at any moment. He can pretend to jump in and last minute teleport. Even her zoning variation.....throw a slow projectile .....and he teleports in immediately. When I try to run in full screen even with pole vault......he teleports or neutral jumps. Its an extremely frustrating match up because Jade has very low damage and up close is terrible. Scorpion wins this one.
I’m sorry but I stopped reading when you said he can harass with full screen spear.He can just keep running away.....even against Jaded.......he has the full screen spear to harass and can just poof teleport away at any moment. He can pretend to jump in and last minute teleport. Even her zoning variation.....throw a slow projectile .....and he teleports in immediately. When I try to run in full screen even with pole vault......he teleports or neutral jumps. Its an extremely frustrating match up because Jade has very low damage and up close is terrible. Scorpion wins this one.
This is the reason I always say wait to patch. They waited but not long enough imo. Everyone thinks they know right away.The irony in this statement
It still baffles me that players haven’t figured out that they can poke out of Reborn TP cancel blockstrings free lmaoCherny mostly went over his base moves and I do agree on a lot of his weaknesses he could be more towards the bottom but I dont know. I think hes mid tier, mostly due to the tools he gets from his variations.
He really struggles up close mostly due to the fact that he lacks a fast mid. Unfortunately it seems that fast mids and good close pressure seem to be what the meta revolves around. In his base tool set his mids just aren't very scary.
Imo reborn is still the best way to play this character. It plays to his strengths the best imo. It makes his b2 and f3 both safe hit confirmable launchers at the cost of meter. Tele cancel makes his mids a lot easier to throw out in general.
Tele is still a good tool to whiff punish moves that are active for a long time. I dont think it's useless in neutral, especially offline where it's easier to react.
Imo the character is best played by maintaining a life lead and playing lame af. Full screen tele cancel makes the character pretty safe. I dont think theres any reason to try to play offense with the life lead. Its challenging against some of the cast but its doable imo.
I do ultimately think people think scorpion is a lot better than he is. Honestly I dont think he needed the tele changed to high and d4 could have kept the 5 less frames of recovery. I believe the character was just hard to deal with in netplay mostly with reborn + mid tele.
I agree with this.I think Jade is better than Scorpion.
Yeah the tele behind off of a lot of strings is a fake mix up. Best bet is tele away. Some characters can even punish that on read, though.It still baffles me that players haven’t figured out that they can poke out of Reborn TP cancel blockstrings free lmao
scorpion's apparently throwing out tp's left and right is the reason it got nerfedI can still bait jade. He can still whiff punish with TP. Matchup hasn't changed that much for me out of the ones I've played since the patch. Not even sure why people seem to think scorpion is just throwing out TP's left and right, if they are then they should have been getting blown up to begin with.
Also at full screen it's not like he HAS to TP. While they block or try to neutral duck and wait, he can just close the gap a little etc.
That’s not why it got nerfed lol.scorpion's apparently throwing out tp's left and right is the reason it got nerfed
I really didn't understand the huge complaints about the original tele. It was annoying but definitely punishable.scorpion's apparently throwing out tp's left and right is the reason it got nerfed
Someone mary this guy to Glortor, stat.Dear diary, its day number 208 and I’ve made my 4728473 thread on tym on why scorpion sucks, i think im finally getting through peoples minds, im so happy right now.
i bet my balls it was nerfed because of random lul scorpions.That’s not why it got nerfed lol.
The reason as I see it is that scorpion:I really didn't understand the huge complaints about the original tele. It was annoying but definitely punishable.
You had people like M2Dave here saying "we already know who all the top characters are" in Week Two, when everybody was yelling bloody murder about Scorpion and Sub being S tier because of tele and 50/50. It was crazy.
it was literally just online complaints. wifi/bad connections mixed with scorpion teleports into plz nerfI really didn't understand the huge complaints about the original tele. It was annoying but definitely punishable.
You had people like M2Dave here saying "we already know who all the top characters are" in Week Two, when everybody was yelling about Scorpion and Sub being S tier because of tele and 50/50. It was crazy.