salvificblood
Worst Sub-Zero Ever
Remember, guys, this a thread for reasonable buffs not crap like being able to cancel slide or giving him an ice parry.
If it's "shredder" Sub-Zero. I'm dropping him.
Hate that costume. lmao
I cansee whypeople suggest this but I honestly don't see how it would help him practically. Your opponent can spot the ex clone so easily and you'd end up not wasting meter on it because it wouldn't work. I'd rather block an armoured move than waste meter on an ex clone that my opponent will just let the timer run out on every time.I think ex clone being able to absorb armor moves would be cool.
Since none of this is gonna happen anyway(trust me on this) we may as well let them go nuts with it. If nothing else, its entertaining.Remember, guys, this a thread for reasonable buffs not crap like being able to cancel slide or giving him an ice parry.
Lol, just saw this, you should have tagged me or something...Hey Panque! Nice Jax, bro. It's your new main? lol!
Yeah, I am concentrating on Kitana now with Sub as my favoured secondary. So it's whatever. NRS can do as they please so long as they don't go and nerf my Kitana! *Salt*.Lol, just saw this, you should have tagged me or something...
I won't main jax until I feel I have one the best jax among the brazilian online players and until I can get his corner combo as consistently as I want to. But yeah, im putting a lot of effort in him, and I hope I can main him someday.
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OT: I'm tired of talking about what he needs because there will always be a jester that doesn't knows shit about SZ telling me he is completely fine. Makes me want to kick a baby.
lies. it is >>>>>>>> than any of these outfits.
Fun fact: Sub actually WAS bottom 5 back when he had that costume.That's the worst costume he's ever had other than the unmasked MK3 costume..
the point isnt to make him top 10, top20 or top100, the point is to make him balanced.As annoying as these threads are, I get them. NRS' treatment of Sub Zero irritates the hell out of me because he would be so easy to make top ten. His glaring and daunting weaknesses as a character are the low damage out put, 2 whiffing, and a strong weakness to zoners. Those both are easy fixes, while still keeping him balanced. I have hope MKKE will have fixes. I'm almost positive.
Fuck you. I want him to compete. That, IMO, is balanced. He needs to have the ABILITY to take tournaments. Right now he has the ability to be a free way out of pools.the point isnt to make him top 10, top20 or top100, the point is to make him balanced.
A lot of people in this topic are suggesting damage increasements, that would to make him better against everyone, the points is that he doesnt need to get better against everyone, that will make SZ too strong against certain chars.
Fine, you want him to be competitive, if hes going to be op or not its not important or no. Thats way dufferent from someone balanced. Balance = equality here, and thats not what youre looking for.Fuck you. I want him to compete. That, IMO, is balanced. He needs to have the ABILITY to take tournaments. Right now he has the ability to be a free way out of pools.
Sub Zero isn't going to break the balance of this game. Balance is broken by death kombos, superior mobility, armor, etc. I want Sub Zero to be able to compete again, as it would be so easy to make him a top 10 kharacter.Fine, you want him to be competitive, if hes going to be op or not its not important or no. Thats way dufferent from someone balanced. Balance = equality here, and thats not what youre looking for.
By the way, dont even waste your time expecting that IF NRS is going to touch the game again they are going to make SZ or anyone else competitive at the cost of the overall balance of the game. They can end up doing that, but it wont be on purpose, it will be pure lack of skill to balance the game.
214 can be poked out of? Never knew this.I like to use the full 212 in the corner to pop out an ice clone. The clone comes out really close. You cant do that with b12, 21, or 22. Both 214 and b121 can be poked out of. That only leaves 224 midscreen, which is what i used to use. But 224 doesnt work for the corner either. So only by getting that special knockdown after 222, can you get a close ice clone on the opponent. Or jumping, but i dont like to do that, i find invincibility frames just rips through the ice clone and i get combo'd to death.
I think he was trolling when he said that. I did try to explain why that sort of strategy isn't possible with Sub-zero just in case he wasn't trolling.Paulo said on the latest VSM stream that Sub-Zero's 2 whiffing isn't a problem because he isn't meant to pressure, that he should be behind a clone spamming ice blasts. Also he said that we should buff our characters by being better players and making the best reads...
I don't have many hopes for buffs or fixes now tbh... I don't think NRS knows wth they are doing. All the indirect nerfs that hit sub pretty hard gives me the impression that they just can't look at the big picture.