LavaG
Representing Gamers Republic GH
Nope, run cancels are fine now, there is more push back now after the meter burnAre you guys sure it's not due to the run cancels screw up?
Nope, run cancels are fine now, there is more push back now after the meter burnAre you guys sure it's not due to the run cancels screw up?
Bullshit.Enjoy your mid tier character, i'm out lol.
Can you let me know where you're going so I can follow?@LavaG is correct. Shinnok no longer gets a free f4 after hellspark due to pushback. Enjoy your mid tier character, i'm out lol.
hm? Stealth nerf?So basically, Imposter gets one chance to steal a move and then he has to back off. Not a fan of that, not a fan of that at all.
Hahaha. You're leaving the character because instead of a true blockstring, you are +. And you call him mid tier. What they say is true then@LavaG is correct. Shinnok no longer gets a free f4 after hellspark due to pushback. Enjoy your mid tier character, i'm out lol.
The risk reward is always bad for him now. He takes terrible guesses after SPENDING a bar.Hahaha. You're leaving the character because instead of a true blockstring, you are +. And you call him mid tier. What they say is true then
Reward may be low, but for what risk? A -11/-8 overhead?The risk reward is always bad for him now. He takes terrible guesses after SPENDING a bar.
i noticed this at first but the timing is actually just more strict. You should be able toAre people ignoring the fact that you can now armor after meter burning the 1st hell spark, it has more push back now
No u can'ti noticed this at first but the timing is actually just more strict. You should be able to
Don't make it sound like Shinnok was high tier because of HS into F4.@LavaG is correct. Shinnok no longer gets a free f4 after hellspark due to pushback. Enjoy your mid tier character, i'm out lol.
It was a core aspect of his game. This plus, the standing reset and dark beam nerf ensures that he will be mid tier. It adds up.Don't make it sound like Shinnok was high tier because of HS into F4.
Hm you're right. Idk why I thought you could still (maybe I was confused after with a dark beam restand) but It adds more mind games because you're still plus and can run up and block or attack if they think you'll try to bait themNo u can't
Because being +14 after mb hellspark is just bad right?I did a few sets last night for the first time with the patch and I couldnt explain why my F4 was getting destroyed after MB sparks on block. I thought I was having hardware/input lag, but the worst of my suspicions have been confirmed. I noticed that the 2nd hit of 112 never whiffs now when you land the first hit at max range, but without the HS pressure, I can't see much of a point in sticking with him. You guys go check out Quan, I've already been there and got bored. I'm giving Reptile a call.
Just being +14 isn't some magical thing that opens doors to top 8's with a twitch of the stick. You need something useful to follow that +14 up. Why spend a bar to essentially put yourself at +4-5 due to the new range with your other option being another hell spark which is punishable by a lot of the cast? Especially for Imposter, meter doesn't come all that easy, so you were often forced to choose between an extra few percent of chip or the next combo doing more than 19% damage. I know a lot of people are still salted up from their inability to deal with Bone Shaper, but his MB Spark pressure is only "special" while in that variation, so the nerf hurts Imposter and Necro when neither deserved nerfs by anyone's standards. The Dark Beam nerf was the biggie that everyone agreed was necessary. No complaints there. Same with his mop. It's still a fantastic special, and all it lost was a few probably unintended setups. No complaints there. In case you haven't noticed, a good Bone Shaper is still going to annoy the fuck out of the people for the same reasons. His dirt is still there, it's just harder to do and very hard to consistently punish when done correctly. All the indirect pushbacl nerf did was hurt his other two variations, one being pretty balanced, and the other being underwhelming already.Because being +14 after mb hellspark is just bad right?
Lol, I see what you did there.Are you guys sure it's not due to the run cancels screw up?
BTW I don't know if you guys noticed this already but I was right about this.Probably changes the juggle in 312. You guys should test that out as you use that string in necro and impostor.
That I have noticed. What I also noticed is Doomy's BnB's will not land anymore.BTW I don't know if you guys noticed this already but I was right about this.
312 xx Shoulder is consistent now and doesn't whiff on anyone.
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The ~30% off B3 in the corner?That I have noticed. What I also noticed is Doomy's BnB's will not land anymore.