I was thinking the sameimo in r3 sub is higher than scorp, nice work otherwise
imo in r3 sub is higher than scorp, nice work otherwise
+2 here. I was going to question that. Sub can punish all c. kicks in the game, blocked/whiffed and some even if they hit him, with his slide. This is incredibly good against Sonya or Liu.I was thinking the same
Great man. We hope to hear more.as the tittle says wip,there will be some changes
Very true. I have put to sleep MANY Sonya players that were overconfident that my Sub jabs didnt hit them.and ESPECIALY easy too play with high reflexes against all caracters even on rev. 5
Hah i use similar stuff , i do mostly jabs attack with cancels and use slide to punish most single moves and sub,s legs are really good for sweeping from longer distance... with "block cancels" sub can be hard work for players against him... and really usefull taktik too be agressive against any oponent who cant handle close combat...Actually the fight looked more like a coreography:
I get in close and kara jab
They c.Lk and I take or block the hit
Slide hits them no matter what
they get up and back up and throw bait sweep BUT
I follow them to block it at the tip of the sweep
I punish their sweep with standing Lk
True. In fact Ded in his guide mentions that a well played Sub can be Top 2... That leaved me wonder, a bad played Kano is the sametier as a good played Kano? I mean IMO and NOT critizicing Ded's job on the guides, he should be placed intead top 2/3 with that guide. Why? Cause if you gonna play you should do it well from the begginning. I dont think of anybody that plays for example a bad Cage and still be 2nd spot in the game.Hah i use similar stuff , i do mostly jabs attack with cancels and use slide to punish most single moves and sub,s legs are really good for sweeping from longer distance... with "block cancels" sub can be hard work for players against him... and really usefull taktik too be agressive against any oponent who cant handle close combat...
Thn Sub is easily top 2 or 3 iI think? Look can someone move these post to the tier list discussion? I dont want someone to ruin the vids thread...individual skills and gaming experience dont count
Ok Dread I was refering alsoto both revisions. The slide from Sub can be the 2nd best move in the entire game if not by the time you have to wait between one and another. It punish EVERITHING in the game blocked (except karajabs), even if someone hit you with a c.lk or a far missed sweep. It punish Jumps, corner combos, all blocked stuff, is fast and can surprise, is hard topunish it if you are not aware... Its easy to do on reaction etc... Thats what im triying to get into.
I know that you guys (Ded, Soul, dread, etc) know more and are far way better than me at MK1 its just that I find weird that aspect of the tier list.
I dont think that a character can be "better if played well". We are assuming that the user is going to use the char at his fullest.
also hanzo you are a lucky man for having mk1 rev3 on arcade,this is supurb and the tourneys should be played on rev3 great keep the arcade game alive as long as you can
Then from someone who knows a lot the game the tier list changes?
I know sub,s slide is one of best punishers, i use slide in everything that is possible there in kombination with jabs. Also im playing on gamepad and i can make slide super fast resoulting too punish everything with it. But u gotta understand the tier list is made with consideration of all aspects of the caracter abilities , meaning ninjas have slow stand up lk recovery and terrible upercuts (wich are important too counter a lot of moves like jk,s or close stuff etc..) and makes them considerably low tier in comparisment for example with with Cage who also has BIG and one of best wake up punisher like shadow kick...its just that I find weird that aspect of the tier list.
if scorpion is used right he is becoming a killing machine especially in rev3Scorpion is not that good, and is not higher than Sub-Zero.
His spear takes forever to come out and it is very punishable.
He doesnt have as much going for him compared to everyone else...
True. aa Hp combos are deadly there hehe. Ah thx for the 3.0 machine prop! I will take care of it believe me!if scorpion is used right he is becoming a killing machine especially in rev3
besides the ninjas have very good hp,aahpTrue. aa Hp combos are deadly there hehe. Ah thx for the 3.0 machine prop! I will take care of it believe me!
Dread: I know man its just that it go t confusing for me cause reading "if played well then he is top 2" thats too subjective for the ones that take tiers very seriously.
Thx everyone thread is gettin great
Still top. She cannot be jabbed at all so go figure. Anything that touches her >>> Leg Grab unless its a kara-jab with block.I wonder where is Sonya on the tier list without her leg grab infinite?