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Bone and Metal
Man, screw my ambitions to make it to tourneys. I'm making a rocket to get to this planet and sell it for like ten trillion dollars.They recently found a planet where the surface is made up of diamond.
Man, screw my ambitions to make it to tourneys. I'm making a rocket to get to this planet and sell it for like ten trillion dollars.They recently found a planet where the surface is made up of diamond.
Only cuz I thought u didn't play MK9...I still wanna do that KI show too.LOL, they're only interested in me if I'm talking KI, not MK. <-- this means I'm just kidding
I'll talk to you more about it in PMs, but I have more to offer about MK9 that just that of a player's point of view.Only cuz I thought u didn't play MK9...I still wanna do that KI show too.
Thank You. Their logic for Sektor's placement is absurd. Now a days, if someone does well at a tourney, it automatically defaults to the character and not the player. Can the players get any props instead?I'm all for hype and various rivalries, but the challenge issued in this podcast simply doesn't make sense.
A Sektor mirror will hardly prove whether Sektor has major deficiencies as a character; it'll only prove which person is better acquainted with one specific match-up. There are too many variables that would make results entirely inconclusive. Skill difference, match-up experience, and Sektor's ability (or inability) to exploit these specific weaknesses (opposed to a different character) could all potentially invalidate a first-to-five seeking to prove Sektor's tier placement. Determining something like overall superiority, whether it be personal character mastery or character tier placement, requires a lengthy history of results and a certain degree of consistency.
Having STH and IKizzle play is great, and I'm sure it'd be a fantastic match, but claiming it would prove anything about a character's status on the tier list or a person's knowledge of the character as a whole (when the focus should be on performance in all match-ups) is somewhat outlandish.
I also disagree with some of the reasoning used in the podcast. Statements about IKizzle beating people who used "better" characters were used to reinforce the statement that Sektor is roughly seventh overall. Once again, there are simply too many variables for a statement like this to hold weight. This would only be applicable with consistency over a long span of time, not after a guy meets and plays people for the first time(?) throughout a single weekend. MLG may very well lend credence to the exposure of Sektor or STH, but it'll be in the tournament, not in a first-to-five mirror-match.
That said, I'd much rather see STH and 16-Bit play. There's a genuine backstory and something can most assuredly be proven. Maybe this will be possible one day.
On a side note, it feels as though an extreme degree of trash talk is becoming a fad. I noticed that, shortly following the VSM vs Mid-West 5 v5, people started talking much bigger. One can safely assume that this is because such behavior led to a hugely successful event. Hopefully this doesn't doesn't get out of hand and breed too much hostility because the thing I've always appreciated about this community was the, well...
7th is probably an exaggeration, maybe because its frustrating that no Sektor will acknowledge how good his tools are, but I think 13th is am exaggeration as well.Thank You. Their logic for Sektor's placement is absurd. Now a days, if someone does well at a tourney, it automatically defaults to the character and not the player. Can the players get any props instead?
Yes, Sektor has great tools and great footsies.....and so does 15 other characters in the cast.
Yeah IMO mirror matches do nothing to show who is better with a character. A mirror match just decides who can play the mirror better.Thank You. Their logic for Sektor's placement is absurd. Now a days, if someone does well at a tourney, it automatically defaults to the character and not the player. Can the players get any props instead?
Yes, Sektor has great tools and great footsies.....and so does 15 other characters in the cast.
Thanks for supporting my taste in scarfs. You could always borrow it if you would just ask.I'm assuming he's going to Flawless Victory instead of PU.
I will play STH at Evo. I will take his scarf. I will wear it on stage for top 8.
There are no official matchup charts dude they are as unofficial as our very own opinions. IKizzle beat a lot of the characters you listed quite handily with Sektor at FR. IKizzle is a great player, but that also means Sektor has the tools to deal with them.Characters who are better than Sektor in the tier:
Kung Lao, Reptile, Kitana, Ermac, Johnny Cage, Mileena, Cyrax, Smoke, Kenshi, Jax, Sonya, Kabal, Raiden.
A lot these characters can shut down Sektor's tools and/or have better footsies. They also all have better matchup charts then Sektor. No way is Sektor above 9, he is somewhere between 10 and 13.
S Tier: Smoke, Kabal, Raiden
A Tier: Cyrax, Jax, Kenshi, Kung Lao, Sonya, Mileena, Cage
B Tier: Reptile, Kitana, Sektor, Ermac, a few others
Just to show the small scale of difference all this drama has cost between myself and a few others... if I had to put Sektor somewhere on the tier list he would go right below every character mentioned in your B tier. For me, Sektor is located around Scorpion and Freddy, either in the lower end of your B tier or C tier depending on how you want to classify it. And out of all these characters listed, I think his bad match ups are with 2 A tier characters, 1 B tier character, and Freddy whom is not listed.7th is probably an exaggeration, maybe because its frustrating that no Sektor will acknowledge how good his tools are, but I think 13th is am exaggeration as well.
A tier characters are something like: Kabal, Kung Lao, Raiden, Smoke, Cyrax, Kenshi
B tier characters are something like: Sonya, Jax, Mileena, Kitana, Cage, Reptile
Well mayo, you are getting into a section of science that I was trying to avoid; defining what is "life". But I believe the parameters were intelligent life (thought based on the republican primary, this is debatable), so the math would still hold there. Without getting into any vector calculus, we can assume that there are only 4 dimensions (not true, but for the purpose here), in which case, the "space" part of "space time" is the only thing being questioned here. I can indeed say that the probability is zero as it is 5 sig figs below zero (x10^-5). The amount of galaxies is only relevant in terms of space, and does not factor time into it. Sure, there may be life out there somewhere now, but by the time the light of their civilization reaches our planet, they are likely long gone. Since time is nether a constant, nor linear, it can be safely argued that life is not present no, outside of what we see. Maybe there is, but due to the limitations of light itself, we will likely never know this save for the advent of some space warping technology. But this is now entering the realm of fantasy and departs from science altogether. This planets entire existence is only about 4.6 billion years, with life being on this planet about 2 billion. I checked the math, its not 25%. Its actually about 14%, and this would get you an F in an english exam if I'm not mistaken =)I strongly disagree with this equation talk. You`re only defining human civilization as "life" so you get a small number of 250,000 years, when the reality is that life has existed on this planet for at least 3.5billion. Given the sheer size of the universe, 100 billion galaxies all containing their stars and planets, you can`t say that probability is " basically zero". We`ve had life on this one planet for a fourth of the entire universe`s lifespan so far.
By the way, its also absurd that ANY human has ever seen an alien because alien travel to this planet would require technology so advanced that they would have already developed perfect cloaking technology, and they would be absolutely invisible to our eyes.
I don't think he's 9 personally. IMO, Sektor being above 9 is trolling, 9 is wrong, 10 is reasonable, 11 is good, and to me, he is 12. Which is still a very good spot, and much above average. You'd be lying if you can tell me that even 4 of those 13 characters in my previous post are below Sektor. What's hard about this game's character rankings is that a numbered list is kind of silly, because there are about 5 tier groups, with everyone in each group sort of equal. IMO, there's 3 in S, and between 7 and 9 in each of the other 3, and 2 in the bottom tier. Of course there's no official matchup charts, but I looked at the general consensus over all the character boards by the top players, and got an average idea of what everyone agrees upon. That's better than 1 person's opinion.There are no official matchup charts dude they are as unofficial as our very own opinions. IKizzle beat a lot of the characters you listed quite handily with Sektor at FR. IKizzle is a great player, but that also means Sektor has the tools to deal with them.
All we're asking is that Sektor is debatably a top 10 character. If you think he's 9th, then thats fine. But for a Sektor player to go toe to toe with the best Jax in the country, the best Kitana in the country and beat down some of the best Cage and Sonya players in the country its time to stop bullshitting about how bad characters like these 'shut down Sektor's tools and/or have better footsies.'
I think any alien life that was intelligent would have gone through primitive beginnings, and therefore would have developed supernatural beliefs. Then you get religion. And our world likely won`t survive our religious differences combined with destructive technology. It`s hard to imagine any alien civilization getting to the point of intergalatic travel before first destroying themselves over their own geographically-unique religious delusions, land/wealth/resource disputes, and globally destructive weapons.Well mayo, you are getting into a section of science that I was trying to avoid; defining what is "life". But I believe the parameters were intelligent life (thought based on the republican primary, this is debatable), so the math would still hold there. Without getting into any vector calculus, we can assume that there are only 4 dimensions (not true, but for the purpose here), in which case, the "space" part of "space time" is the only thing being questioned here. I can indeed say that the probability is zero as it is 5 sig figs below zero (x10^-5). The amount of galaxies is only relevant in terms of space, and does not factor time into it. Sure, there may be life out there somewhere now, but by the time the light of their civilization reaches our planet, they are likely long gone. Since time is nether a constant, nor linear, it can be safely argued that life is not present no, outside of what we see. Maybe there is, but due to the limitations of light itself, we will likely never know this save for the advent of some space warping technology. But this is now entering the realm of fantasy and departs from science altogether. This planets entire existence is only about 4.6 billion years, with life being on this planet about 2 billion. I checked the math, its not 25%. Its actually about 14%, and this would get you an F in an english exam if I'm not mistaken =)
I agree with the notion that any contact is crazy talk. I think Hawking had concluded that, in the event that a civilization were to exceed a class 2 standing, they would likely be here to farm resource, which would likely mark the end of civilization and/or the planet before red giant sun overtakes us.
Mayo, its been great watching your Kenshi stuff! I'm a big fan of Kenshi, so its cool to see you do tutorials. I also liked how you did the mathematical deductions of quan chi. Good stuff indeed
You know what is worth posting a picture of a facepalm.Sonya...best char in the game...
You know what, fuck it, it's not even worth posting a picture of a facepalm, that shit is just straight retarded.
I've already acknowledged IKizzle is a good player so there's no need to make that point. But VSM doesn't have good Sektor experience? As far as I know this is the same VSM SwiftTomHanks rants about how they expose Sektor's weaknesses and he's not that good. They clearly have an idea of what to do.No, the reason IKizzle beats these good players is because he is that good. There are also other reasons, such as these players don't have good Sektor experience and don't know what they can blow up or not. Also some of those were not 'quite handily' as you say, some went to the last round or last inch of health.
Basing a character's tier place on how good one guy plays at one tournament, is ridiculous. No matter if he theoretically beat every VSM guy and PL that day, does that mean now Sektor is above Smoke, Jax, etc.? Everyone has their bad days, and everyone loses some times, regardless of how great their character is. If it's a tight match, and Ikizzle's opponent makes one mistake, and Ikizzle capitalizes on it, and wins, and now his character is top 10? Get out of here. It just means that Ikizzle is definitely very good, and can clutch a win. It doesn't mean that Sektor just moved up 3 places on the tier list.
When a Scorpion and Kitana player think they know more about Sektor than the top Sektor players, I'd say give it a rest. Theoretically, Sektor should be top 5. But in practice and extended match experience, which you guys don't have with Sektor, it becomes obvious he has holes and limitations that bring him down to at most 10, especially considering all of the better characters.
Hmm, probably, although all this talk of a mirror match not really deciding who is the better player would have applied to our match, so it'll have to wait until I learn Scorpion or Raiden better. Then it will be legit.
lolololYou know what is worth posting a picture of a facepalm.
You dodging Pig Of The Hut 's money match
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Pig said part of your back out agreement was a written apology on tym? Am I mistaken in hearing that, or did I miss the post?Hmm, probably, although all this talk of a mirror match not really deciding who is the better player would have applied to our match, so it'll have to wait until I learn Scorpion or Raiden better. Then it will be legit.
Also did you not challenge Shujinkydink to a money match and then back off? I'm a nice little Kettle, no need to call me black
So you play IKizzle, and he ALSO tells you he is not top 10, yet you don't think he is right.I've already acknowledged IKizzle is a good player so there's no need to make that point. But VSM doesn't have good Sektor experience? As far as I know this is the same VSM SwiftTomHanks rants about how they expose Sektor's weaknesses and he's not that good. They clearly have an idea of what to do.
Beating a top Johnny Cage 8-1 is pretty handily. He beat a good Reptile and a top Sonya in tourney and was able to beat cdjr's Jax in a ft3 set. All these characters you listed as characters that 'shut down Sektor's tools and/or have better footsies'. If its THAT bad he wouldn't have had that much success.
We didn't move Sektor up 3 spots on the tier list because of IKizzle. We don't think he's top 10 all of a sudden because a Sektor player went toe-to-toe with the best players in the country. Maybe you haven't been reading my posts or listening to the podcast, but we've been telling people Sektor is top 10 character for MONTHS.
lol we don't have Sektor experience. IKizzle is my main sparring partner and 16 Bit plays him all the time. He was our roomate at FR. I think the people who play the best Sektor in the country on a regular basis have a little more say as to where he stands than you. The only person who needs to give it a rest here is yourself.