LawAbidingCitizen
Bomb Setups & Ball Rolls(Mileena/Cyrax)
Mileena can make her base Sai's jail off F43, B1 and F2 but to ensure saftey you have to spend that bar.
I'll explain:
Many people on social media have made the claim:
"her (Meterless) base sai off strings like F43/F2/B1 is safe against a hand full of characters, if not half the cast are safe"
Well I did the labbing and I'm sorry to say everyone can punish it. Many characters can duck the second high sai by holding down right before the second one hits and some are jailed into both. Between that and hitbox/hurtbox diversity is what determines how negative F43xxSai is on block across the cast.
Note: I don't have Robocop so I couldn't
test him. I'm pretty sure he can punish but maybe he is the exception?
EDIT:
thanks to @Afumba Robocop is added to the list. He is -18/-20 on stand block, he can't duck the second high by crouch blocking the first high Sai. He gets Full combo punish and KB. So that means the entire cast gets to punish Mileena's non-amped base Sai's
Characters that can punish F43xxBaseSai on block, Not Amplified:
Example of rain block ducking the second Sai making it not jail:
It's important to mention amped Sai's are completely safe and even the characters who can duck the 2ns High Sai can't escape the double low Sai from amping it.
Amped Sai vs Regular Sai's is not reactable, so there is a guessing game if Mileena will amp the base Sai's or not. If she does amp they are punished for 7% if she does meterless Sai's and they make the read and go for the punish they get a full Kombo punish and many into KB.
IMO it's not worth risking the non-amped version because the trade-off is in their favor, not Mileena's. So my advice is to never do base sai (meterless) off F43/F2/B1 because if they guess right they get a much higher reward than you do. Let's not forget F2/B1 into Sai can't be hit confirmed like F43(Using Play Time Slot) can. Mileena's opponent can react to anything into meterless Sai because of extra frames the double Sai's add visually.
In Short Always AMP Sai when using it to make her strings safer. But if you conditioned them to respect the amped version maybe you could get away with it every so often.
@Evil Canadian
@xenogorgeous
@FoughtDragon01
@Vslayer
Plz share with any Mileena players you think might benefit from this. I only tagged you because I know you all like Mileena
#TeamMileena
I'll explain:
Many people on social media have made the claim:
"her (Meterless) base sai off strings like F43/F2/B1 is safe against a hand full of characters, if not half the cast are safe"
Well I did the labbing and I'm sorry to say everyone can punish it. Many characters can duck the second high sai by holding down right before the second one hits and some are jailed into both. Between that and hitbox/hurtbox diversity is what determines how negative F43xxSai is on block across the cast.
Note: I don't have Robocop so I couldn't
test him. I'm pretty sure he can punish but maybe he is the exception?
EDIT:
thanks to @Afumba Robocop is added to the list. He is -18/-20 on stand block, he can't duck the second high by crouch blocking the first high Sai. He gets Full combo punish and KB. So that means the entire cast gets to punish Mileena's non-amped base Sai's
Characters that can punish F43xxBaseSai on block, Not Amplified:
- Shang: -14 on block, can't duck 2nd Sai, full kombo punish with UpSkulls.
- Shao Kahn: -18, can't duck, D4 punish.
- Frost: -14 on block, Can't Duck, Full Kombo Punish.
- Nightwolf: -18, can duck, full kombo.
- Joker: -18 on block, can duck 2nd Sai, Full Kombo Punish/KB.
- Johnny Cage: -18 on block, can duck, full Kombo with F344.
- Sonya: -14, Can't Duck 2nd Sai, Full Kombo Punish B123.
- Cassie: -14 on block, Full Kombo Punish.
- Jax: -13, Full Kombo Punish KB.
- Spawn: -18, Can't Duck, Full Kombo Punish.
- Scorpion: -14, Can't Duck 2nd Sai, Full Kombo Punish and KB (F34).
- Noob: -18 on block, Can Duck, Full Kombo Punish.
- Baraka: -21, Can Duck 2nd High Sai, Full Kombo Punish KB.
- Raiden: -21 OB, Can Duck 2nd High Sai, Full Kombo Punish.
- Jacqui: -22, Can Duck 2nd High Sai, Full Kombo Punish.
- Sub Zero: -14 OB, Can't Duck 2nd High Sai, Full Kombo Punish with 3xxDF1.
- Kano: -20 OB, Can Duck 2nd High Sai, Full Kombo Punish.
- Kabal: -20 OB, Can Duck 2nd high sai, Full Kombo Punish.
- Liu Kang: -21 on block, Can Duck 2nd high Sai, Full Kombo Punish KB.
- Kitana: -20 OB, Can Duck 2nd High Sai, Full Kombo Punish.
- Kung Lao: -20 on block, Can Duck 2nd High Sai, Full Kombo Punish.
- Jade: -20, Can't Duck 2nd high Sai, Small Kombo Punish (20%).
- Scarlett: -21, Can Duck, Full Kombo Punish.
- Erron Black: -16/-20, Can't Duck, Full Kombo.
- D'vorah: -21 on block, Can Duck 2nd Sai, Full Kombo.
- Kotal: -15 on block, Can't Duck, Full Kombo Punish.
- Sheeva: -15 on block, Can't Duck, Can full combo Punish only with Dragon Charge Amped.
- Rambo: -16, Can't Duck, Micro Dashxx B33 full punish.
- Terminator: -17, can't duck, full kombo punish with B2.
- Geras: -20, Can Duck, Full Kombo.
- Kollector: -20, Can Duck 2nd Sai, Full Kombo Punish.
- Sindel: -20, Can Duck, Full Kombo Punish.
- Mileena: -21 on block, Can Duck, Full Kombo Punish.
- Cetrion: -21, Can Duck, Full Kombo Punish.
- Fujin: -21 on block, Can Duck, Full Kombo Punish.
- Rain: -21 on block, Can Duck, Full Kombo Punish.
Example of rain block ducking the second Sai making it not jail:
It's important to mention amped Sai's are completely safe and even the characters who can duck the 2ns High Sai can't escape the double low Sai from amping it.
Amped Sai vs Regular Sai's is not reactable, so there is a guessing game if Mileena will amp the base Sai's or not. If she does amp they are punished for 7% if she does meterless Sai's and they make the read and go for the punish they get a full Kombo punish and many into KB.
IMO it's not worth risking the non-amped version because the trade-off is in their favor, not Mileena's. So my advice is to never do base sai (meterless) off F43/F2/B1 because if they guess right they get a much higher reward than you do. Let's not forget F2/B1 into Sai can't be hit confirmed like F43(Using Play Time Slot) can. Mileena's opponent can react to anything into meterless Sai because of extra frames the double Sai's add visually.
In Short Always AMP Sai when using it to make her strings safer. But if you conditioned them to respect the amped version maybe you could get away with it every so often.
@Evil Canadian
@xenogorgeous
@FoughtDragon01
@Vslayer
Plz share with any Mileena players you think might benefit from this. I only tagged you because I know you all like Mileena
#TeamMileena
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