Hypothetical situation. What if we had this game with no Kabal from release. Your new argument would be to patch Sonya because shes safe on almost everything.I wasnt trying to be rude. And that wasnt aimed toward you by the way. Only people who feel like the game with Kabal the way he is, is fine and dosnt need fixed.
If Kabal weren't in the game, this game wouldnt be dying. People are forced to use Kabal in tournaments now because the only fighter that can stand up to Kabal on a remotly consistant bases IS KABAL. We wouldnt be complaining about Sonya, because unlike Kabal, she does have weaknesses and bad MU's. So does everyone else in S tier. Kabal is the only fighter in the entire game without a single bad MU or a single weakness. He builds meter 2x faster than any fighter in the entire game, and is arguably the best rushdown and best zoner in the entire game, all in one fighter. This is why I think something should be done about him, or else this game will die because everyone will just be using Kabal. There have been multiple other fighting games that have died for this very reson as well, yet we should just sit here and not do anything about it?Hypothetical situation. What if we had this game with no Kabal from release. Your new argument would be to patch Sonya because shes safe on almost everything.
What do you want removed or nerfed from Kabal?
Rain gets out of it that way so I'm sure every1 can. Also if you're not letting go of block during NDC pressure you're just gonna get murdered.This is nice and all, but what about characters with large hitboxes?
Also, are you really encouraging players to let go of block during NDC pressure?
I would prefer it if my opponent stays blocking. It would be even better if they would place the controller on the ground and forfeit the match. A man can dream.This is nice and all, but what about characters with large hitboxes?
Also, are you really encouraging players to let go of block during NDC pressure?
I'm never trolling. I don't know who started this rumor.Well, you reap what you sow... STOP TROLLING 89.5% of the time and people will take you more seriously lol
Anyways, I had my first casuals last night with my day 1 Kabal and it went very well ^_^
UMK:3 has survived perfectly fine for over 20+ years with just Kabal. I see no difference in MK:9. Who cares if everyone picks up and plays Kabal? Everyone is still playing the game.If Kabal weren't in the game, this game wouldnt be dying. People are forced to use Kabal in tournaments now because the only fighter that can stand up to Kabal on a remotly consistant bases IS KABAL. We wouldnt be complaining about Sonya, because unlike Kabal, she does have weaknesses and bad MU's. So does everyone else in S tier. Kabal is the only fighter in the entire game without a single bad MU or a single weakness. He builds meter 2x faster than any fighter in the entire game, and is arguably the best rushdown and best zoner in the entire game, all in one fighter. This is why I think something should be done about him, or else this game will die because everyone will just be using Kabal. There have been multiple other fighting games that have died for this very reson as well, yet we should just sit here and not do anything about it?
As far as what about Kabal needs fixed, I couldn't anwer that specifically. My best guess would be to either dumb down his zoning A LOT, or dumb down his zoning and rushdown partially.
So pick him up and win a tournament. Its like this in a lot of fighting games where the same character is being used and there are mirror matches in the Grand Finals. Tell me the last time you saw a mirror match at a major on patch 1.05. You are giving way too much credit to the character and not enough for the players.If Kabal weren't in the game, this game wouldnt be dying. People are forced to use Kabal in tournaments now because the only fighter that can stand up to Kabal on a remotly consistant bases IS KABAL. We wouldnt be complaining about Sonya, because unlike Kabal, she does have weaknesses and bad MU's. So does everyone else in S tier. Kabal is the only fighter in the entire game without a single bad MU or a single weakness. He builds meter 2x faster than any fighter in the entire game, and is arguably the best rushdown and best zoner in the entire game, all in one fighter. This is why I think something should be done about him, or else this game will die because everyone will just be using Kabal. There have been multiple other fighting games that have died for this very reson as well, yet we should just sit here and not do anything about it?
As far as what about Kabal needs fixed, I couldn't anwer that specifically. My best guess would be to either dumb down his zoning A LOT, or dumb down his zoning and rushdown partially.
I really don't get your problem with kabal. Are you scared to fight him? Have you tried picking him up and just couldn't? Are you jealouls of Kabal players? What is it man?If Kabal weren't in the game, this game wouldnt be dying. People are forced to use Kabal in tournaments now because the only fighter that can stand up to Kabal on a remotly consistant bases IS KABAL. We wouldnt be complaining about Sonya, because unlike Kabal, she does have weaknesses and bad MU's. So does everyone else in S tier. Kabal is the only fighter in the entire game without a single bad MU or a single weakness. He builds meter 2x faster than any fighter in the entire game, and is arguably the best rushdown and best zoner in the entire game, all in one fighter. This is why I think something should be done about him, or else this game will die because everyone will just be using Kabal. There have been multiple other fighting games that have died for this very reson as well, yet we should just sit here and not do anything about it?
As far as what about Kabal needs fixed, I couldn't anwer that specifically. My best guess would be to either dumb down his zoning A LOT, or dumb down his zoning and rushdown partially.
If Kabal was not in the game, EVERYONE would be complaining about Sonya and most are currently. She is the second best character in the game, she loses only to Kabal. She does have some matches that give her trouble but she has every tool to overcome every character in the game except Kabal. Sonya was the best character in MK1, the MK9 Sonya has reached that level far as being labeled broken, ridiculous and OP. Sonya builds meter fast constantly. I use her and I feel invincible.We wouldnt be complaining about Sonya, because unlike Kabal, she does have weaknesses and bad MU's. So does everyone else in S tier. Kabal is the only fighter in the entire game without a single bad MU or a single weakness. He builds meter 2x faster than any fighter in the entire game, and is arguably the best rushdown and best zoner in the entire game, all in one fighter.
As far as what about Kabal needs fixed, I couldn't anwer that specifically.
I disagree. I wouldnt mind Kabal nearly as much if his iagbs were nerfed. Also I disagree about Sonya. IMO Kenshi is the next best. And Sonya loses to Kabal, Kenshi and Freddy, and can have trouble with a couple other fighters as well. Of course she has the tools to overcome her bad MU's. So do many other fighters in the game, but that dosnt change the fact that its still much harder and your still more likely to lose.If Kabal was not in the game, EVERYONE would be complaining about Sonya and most are currently. She is the second best character in the game, she loses only to Kabal. She does have some matches that give her trouble but she has every tool to overcome every character in the game except Kabal. Sonya was the best character in MK1, the MK9 Sonya has reached that level far as being labeled broken, ridiculous and OP. Sonya builds meter fast constantly. I use her and I feel invincible.
Kabal needs iAGB nerfed but even with that nerf, it still wouldn't change him being #1 and having no bad match ups. It would just make him more approachable to get past his zoning which will give you a fighting chance to get in. Kabal IS the best zoning character in the game because almost the entire cast can't get past his machine blasting iAGB except Smoke, Jade and Freddy but even Kabal can wreck them up close. With that single nerf, EVERYONE will still cry about Kabal regardless.
You say sonya has 3 bad match ups. How can you not be happy with Sonya or even complain for that matter? That is literary one step away from being as good as kabal. You can dominate 95% of the cast and you want to complain lol. It makes no sense. That is like a Kabal crying about a small nerf. Take away the cancel advantage of 2ndc and cut the iagb damage in half, I promise you that I wont complain one bit.I disagree. I wouldnt mind Kabal nearly as much if his iagbs were nerfed. Also I disagree about Sonya. IMO Kenshi is the next best. And Sonya loses to Kabal, Kenshi and Freddy, and can have trouble with a couple other fighters as well. Of course she has the tools to overcome her bad MU's. So do many other fighters in the game, but that dosnt change the fact that its still much harder and your still more likely to lose.
My problem with Kabal: No bad MU's, no weaknesses, excells in every aspect of the game.I really don't get your problem with kabal. Are you scared to fight him? Have you tried picking him up and just couldn't? Are you jealouls of Kabal players? What is it man?
For a while with all the kabal hate on the forums I thought I was never going to be able to play people in casuals, offline or online. I fought a lot of people of different levels and they never complained about it, they love fighting me and give me respect. I've even played some top people and still get respect?
We all know kabal is good and accept it, why can't you fucking do it? 1.
If you love the game so much, you need to accept the bullshit and keep playing. 2.
If you want to be the underdog, you need to accept the bullshit and keep playing. 3.
If you want to play competitively at a high level, you need to accept the bullshit and keep playing. 4.
See where I'm going? Complaining about it wont do anything, level the fuck up and deal with it like the rest. Don't even say I can't win without Kabal. Get him banned and I would love to prove you wrong. 5.
Did I say I think she's bad? I think she is the 3rd best. But I don't think that is a huge deal. All fighters (well, any fighter who is above c tier)can stand up to any other fighter in the game just fine as long as the MU isnt shit. CSZ vs. Sonya is very fun and pretty damn fair. And they are far away from eachother on the tier list. I never said Sona was bad. She is very good.You say sonya has 3 bad match ups. How can you not be happy with Sonya or even complain for that matter? That is literary one step away from being as good as kabal. You can dominate 95% of the cast and you want to complain lol. It makes no sense. That is like a Kabal crying about a small nerf. Take away the cancel advantage of 2ndc and cut the iagb damage in half, I promise you that I wont complain one bit.
If you think your character is really that bad because she has 3 bad match ups then pick up kabal already. rest of the cast have it way harder.
Where are you seeing trolling/bad info?This thread should probably get closed. . . once again with the bad info/trolling
You have no right to say winning means very little with him. If you think its that easy to win with him then you are clueless. Don't complain about people losing to flow chart kabal because that wont be a problem eventually. Choose not to give me respect for using ALL of his tools then I give no respect to you. A complete Kabal should be respected, not a flow chart. I'm still working hard to make my kabal complete.weee
I have never played that game, so I cant make factual comments about it. But I doubt the game is still very lively at all, especially if it is nothing but Kabal mirrors, at least if you want to have a fighting chance at winning. This game will stop being played at tournament levels it turns out to be nothing but Kabal vs. Kabal in top 8, or reletivly close to that. You are the only person that seems ok with the game turning into this. Kabal vs. Kabal, all day.I am perfectly fine with this game having another 20+ years of life like UMK:3.
If I'm the only person okay with it, then why are numerous top players picking up Kabal and continuing to play the game? This game will last for 20+ years or until MK:10 hits, trust me.I have never played that game, so I cant make factual comments about it. But I doubt the game is still very lively at all, especially if it is nothing but Kabal mirrors, at least if you want to have a fighting chance at winning. This game will stop being played at tournament levels it turns out to be nothing but Kabal vs. Kabal in top 8, or reletivly close to that. You are the only person that seems ok with the game turning into this. Kabal vs. Kabal, all day.
He may not be easy to use, but once you understand his tools and train your muscle memory to do all his tricks, he becomes a God of a fighter. I said I don't not respect Kabal players. PLEASE read before you comment. I never said I don't respect you. I just don't respect Kabal.You have no right to say winning means very little with him. If you think its that easy to win with him then you are clueless. Don't complain about people losing to flow chart kabal because that wont be a problem eventually. Choose not to give me respect for using ALL of his tools then I give no respect to you. A complete Kabal should be respected, not a flow chart. I'm still working hard to make my kabal complete.
I know he is good, fucked up and other things but I didn't at first. When I explored him more and more in depth, I did come to the realization that he is too good. Why should I stop playing him after all that hard work because of that? He is one of my favorite characters in MK and I put a lot of time into him. Its a slap in the face when people like you say shit like that. If he was banned, I'd accept it and play a different character but I will NOT drop one of my favorite characters because a very small part of the community care that much.
Here is what you should do, email NRS or make a petition to ban Kabal. Complaining on a forum wont even do anything but fuel your kabal hate.
I agree, close the thread if its too much.
Because they want a shot at the money, and Kabal is the only way. I see a problem with that, and you dont? It may last 20 more years. But anyone who enjoys playing a game for more than just money will most likely agree that that is a terribal policy.If I'm the only person okay with it, then why are numerous top players picking up Kabal and continuing to play the game? This game will last for 20+ years or until MK:10 hits, trust me.
Pure 100% Kabal use has yet to win a MLG event. So I don't know what you're basing this information from.Because they want a shot at the money, and Kabal is the only way. I see a problem with that, and you dont? It may last 20 more years. But anyone who enjoys playing a game for more than just money will most likely agree that that is a terribal policy.
Hasnt there only been 2 MLG events? Winter and the one where grand finals was CDjr and Detroit? Forgot the name. Now if your refering to all majors, then maybe your right, I havnt looked into that, but it still dosnt change anything. I should rephrase that. Its getting to the point to where its going to be the only way to have a sure fire chance at getting into the money. That is why all the top players are picking him up.Pure 100% Kabal use has yet to win a MLG event. So I don't know where you're getting this information from.