Invincible Salads
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was just a thought, but yeah the other stuff i meantioned would be great.Safe EX divekick probably won't do much for Cyber Sub. He is already pretty meter hungry and mobility is not an issue for him.
was just a thought, but yeah the other stuff i meantioned would be great.Safe EX divekick probably won't do much for Cyber Sub. He is already pretty meter hungry and mobility is not an issue for him.
Says the guy who was talking about it while ago... dude, You need think.This is not a thread about Cyraxs wake up options.
Imo if CSZ can get b1 iceball so should smoke but that's a personal gripe of mine. I feel the borgs should be universal in comboing the moves that they share but that's just me.CSZ should have B1 connect with freeze along with F13 and B3. like i said months ago recovery should have got the shaft not startup on freeze. he could do a little more damage off drone combos as well, that should all be reasonable.
Cyrax needs, Combo off Shrapnel Port. better recovery off net and tele, Net should hold a bit longer an additional 10 frames would not hurt. After a bomb connects Cyrax should have the option to use Metered net. since he still has restrictions on how many bombs come out per combo all ive suggested seems fair. might be cool to have a human costume as well.
This was the worst thing that happened to him by far. It's a real head scratcher why they thought that was a good idea.I'd just like to be able to combo Ice Ball off of F13 without using meter.
Mid screen with drone buff I can get a consistent 30% and in the corner about 33-37% depending on how long the DE Iceball ticks for and that's without bomb setups. I'd appreciate a small damage buff but damage is there.H
3) A slight damage buff. Cyber Sub Zero doesn't feel much different than his original. Mid Screen BnB's do roughly 20-25% while corner combos do upwards of 40 under the most ideal bomb mix ups. I wouldn't request a lot, 3-5% would be just fine.
i agree with all your suggestions, just want to say off this one - F4 is fine and I don't believe it needs extra options, but for 3 variations its like their only real mid - could we please make it so it can't be lowprofiled?2) A somewhat safe Mid Option off of F4. Across the board for all the Cyborgs
you are right, and i agree they should all get the same treatment, and B1 is combo-able with Cyrax and Sektor and sektor having is the more important one to look at since he is the best of the borgs right now. right after patch when they added startup frames to CSZ Freeze i freaked out, i couldn't understand why they wouldn't add those 5 frames to Recovery to take care of the machine gunning of freeze. even with all the sugesstions i have made, all the problems people had with CSZ would still be taken care of while allowing us to possibly see him closer to the top of majors. 1. no more machine gunning freeze, (changing startup to recovery would fix that as well and allow his B1/F13/B3/1/11 to connect with freeze meterless like it should) 2. His dive kicks are hella negative on block, and there is no need to worrie about them anymore. 3. his airborne F2 into B3D4 has a huge gap and can be avoided and should stay that way.Imo if CSZ can get b1 iceball so should smoke but that's a personal gripe of mine. I feel the borgs should be universal in comboing the moves that they share but that's just me.
That metered net idea is a really cool one though. Even though Cyrax builds hella meter he also has to spend it to remain safe so making the choice mid combo is meaningful.
Finally someone who actually takes advantage of dronesMid screen with drone buff I can get a consistent 30% and in the corner about 33-37% depending on how long the DE Iceball ticks for and that's without bomb setups. I'd appreciate a small damage buff but damage is there.
I almost use drones exclusively. Bombs are great but I prefer consistencyFinally someone who actually takes advantage of drones
You play CSZ without the MMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMIX?I almost use drones exclusively. Bombs are great but I prefer consistency
yeah he needs his Freeze to start 5 frames faster, then make Recovery 5 frames longer, that will keep him from spamming it hella but fix his Freeze starters like: F13/B1/1/11/B3 Honestly CSZ would be very strong, but he is cool and deserves this, it would not hurt to give him viable starters again. this BS where he has to Try to land only 111 or B2 which depletes his Stamina, or B3U4 which is absurdly punishable on block is not cool when so many characters have very easy ways to open up others safely or without meter.I'm thinking Triborg was released as this awesome character so that people just buy him. They knew ppl would bitch and they had a nice little Fuck-You...I mean a nice little Patch....ready to fuck him over.
Hell, to get ~34% with CSZ in a combo you need 2 drones ready (+ a bar if you want to do F13 or B1).
They arent going to change all the things people want so if I could get JUST 1 thing for CSZ, it would be his original Iceball. This would make F13 & B1-Iceball connect and would up his zoning a bit. Fuck it at this point, I can live with the whiffed dive kick and drone summon scaling even if it's the dumbest fucking thing ever...
Ah yes I forgot about the longer recovery. I'm ok with that also!yeah he needs his Freeze to start 5 frames faster, then make Recovery 5 frames longer, that will keep him from spamming it hella but fix his Freeze starters like: F13/B1/1/11/B3 Honestly CSZ would be very strong, but he is cool and deserves this, it would not hurt to give him viable starters again. this BS where he has to Try to land only 111 or B2 which depletes his Stamina, or B3U4 which is absurdly punishable on block is not cool when so many characters have very easy ways to open up others safely or without meter.
i thought B3 into normal freeze can be blocked on hit at max range. which is where i mostly use it with Cyrax, so i fugured you would have to use B3 the same way, since they made it start up slower after 3-29 patchAh yes I forgot about the longer recovery. I'm ok with that also!
The strict 111-iceball is also idiotic.
Interesting you would use B2 and B3U4 midscreen? My midscreen meterless at this point are 111-ice, F4-ice (rare), B3-ice. Anything else, I need meter.
I use B2 for corner shenanigans or as an AA while in midscreen
nope, with CSZ it works from what I can see.i thought B3 into normal freeze can be blocked on hit at max range. which is where i mostly use it with Cyrax, so i fugured you would have to use B3 the same way, since they made it start up slower after 3-29 patch