Bruno-NeoSpace
They see me zonin', they hatin'
No. Dragon's Fire still would have very good zoning and very good pressure because he still would have very plus stuffs, he just would not have a lot of jailings.Wouldn't that just kill dragons fire?
What is the purpose of playing Dragon's Fire? Good zoning with amazing offensive. He still would have good zoning with amazing offensive:I disagree with nerfing of his fbrc(s). Doing that would kill the purpose of playing dragons fire.
Same thing applies to johnny, devorah and scorpion. I agree that Johnny's should be toned down but don't kill all of his jails.
F213 FBRC would be +10 (3f frames to jail into F1)
B34/44/112 would be +7 and the first hit of B3 would be +5
F44 would be +5
111/B3/S4 would be +4
F21 would be +1
And the EX FBRCs would still be the same.
Interesting... I forgot about that trade - F21 neutral on block but more recovery. . But, yeah, it's not necessary. F2 is -3 I think and F2,1 is -4, good staggers.Just for the record this isn't necessarily true. If NRS made F21 neutral on block by adjusting Liu's own recovery at the end of the string, the frame advantage within the cancel window would still be the same. It's not like when they adjusted Kano's B1 and had no choice but to remove blockstun inside the duration.
That said, I do agree that F2 is already decently staggerable anyway so I don't think this is a necessary change
You're right, but I think that it would make more sense if NRS make Metamorphosis 1 or 2 frames faster on recovery and reduce the pushback on hit of the 1,1,2 blockstring to make Dualist's BnBs easier.There might not be anything Dualist-esque about the Bicycle Kick MB option but there's nothing that suggests it should be Dragon's Fire exclusive either lol. I guess the point is that it would give Dualist some more conversion ability if he needs it, and lack of conversions IS a legitimate problem for it compared to Dragon's Fire and Flame Fist.
Dualist already has a lot of tools and a lot of them are not very good at this moment. It's better to NRS buff them instead of add one more tool. Better orbs, zoning, easier BnBs and better healing...A command grab for DUALIST isn't that bad
Dragon's Fire still would have very good zoning and very good pressure because, he still would have very plus stuffs, he just would not have a lot of jailings.Other characters can jail into other things so I think toning down Kangs cancels will just be ridiculous. While you can argue the whole different tool sets and different character play styles, you cant deny that they can jail just as easily as we can. @Bruno-NeoSpace I know we had this conversation and I respect your opinions before but yes, I want to see DF Kang succeed and nerfing his cancels on block isnt going to help. I honestly would just be happy with the hitbox issues, a faster poke and/or plus 1-2 dragon kick. Other than that, he might be the most balanced character in the cast. No dirty overhead low, low over head safe 50/50s. (I dont count b2 as the 50/50 because it leads to a knockdown and nothing comes out of it)
F213 FBRC would be +10 (3f frames to jail into F1)
B34/44/112 would be +7 and the first hit of B3 would be +5
F44 would be +5
111/B3/S4 would be +4
F21 would be +1
And the EX FBRCs would still be the same.
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