so umm can any1 help me with Ares' oki game (i think that's what you call it)? On stages with bg bounce I end combos with bg bounce invis then either do MB F3 or Godsmack but characters with multi hit wake-ups beat me everytime so how do u deal with characters like that? do u just end combos normally? and on stages without bg bounce do u just do normal combos or are there any hard knockdown enders like with d3?
Depends on the character. If they don't have option select wake ups you can try crossing up their controls. After a bgb you can dash under or you can dash and not go under so that can make it harder for them to wake up. Do as much as you can to make it ambiguous so they can't even get the wake up out.
If you're playing against Batgirl or Deathstroke who have invincible, multi-hitting, option selecting wake ups you have to get more creative. You can try to bait out unsafe wake ups and just block, but most of your oki is slow enough to react to. If one wake up is unsafe and you know they're just gonna mash out a wake up you can try to option select them into the unsafe wake up and punish that way(like if you think Batgirl is going to mash out Cartwheel dash under so it turns into Uppercut which you can block and punish).
Other than that you have to look at wake up specific punishes, like with Deathstrokes Sword Spin you can neutral jump it and punish so you can try throwing in neutral jumps sometimes.
Other than that, you can just opt for optimal damage. Usually my go to plan when resets and oki shenanigans aren't working is to drop them. No point in using something that isn't working, especially if you're dropping damage to try it
Ares has hard knockdown off of d3, uu4, f12, and 223. He doesn't get too much off of them though. I think he was intentionally given shitty hard knockdowns because of the GS resets, and it really hurts him. There's a few set ups off of d3. You can do something like starter, b23, d2, d3 for a cross up set up that's good against characters that are vulnerable to that kind of thing on wake up. There's videos floating around somewhere on the forums