Maxter
Noob
i know cyrax is a very controversial character but he will never be the same after all these nerfs and changes he is being through just to avoid bombs to otg, this is a list of what i can remember,
command grab: command grab was nerfed supposedly to avoid a guaranteed bomb trap, they nerfed the stagger of it and also made like 9 more frames easier to tech out of it so it was 2 nerfs on one move, cyrax dont have low starting combos and all of his strings are punnishable by a ducking poke on start up but the 3,3 which is not hit confirmable, thats why i guess command grab was one of his best tools, now if they made it so easy to tech out of why they also remove the stagger so cyrax cant bomb trap?
net: recovery dont know how much frames, now most of the cast can hit cyrax from long range and have time to block because cyrax cant recover faster to throw nets.
forward back punch: f2 used to be such a nice move in which cyrax could also start another bomb trap, at least this move was legit and dmg wasnt that great starting a bomb trap with it, it had a nice block stunt that left cyrax on frame advantage to do his strings, also this move is too slow why nerfed the properties it had?
ex ragdoll: ex ragdoll had auto correction on it , if on wake up your opponents tried to jump around you the ex ragdoll will correct to side your opponent jump and you could use this and the throw to decide where to place your opponents, this also was another unnecessary nerfs that helped cyrax a bunch, kano still has his auto correction ex up ball, and i dont believe this was a glitch.
buzzaw: we know buzzaw got way better because now is an overhead and recover faster, it was really an useless move only good to start resets, guess what? it was a good move the way it was on close bomb setups, becasue your opponents couldnt punish you while the saw was active and if they got hit by the saw the bomb will pop them up, and you could start your combos from there, now since nrs programers didnt know how to fix the move to not reset the combos they just made bombs not to hit when oppoents were hit by the buzzaw, i used this move a bunch when doing a close bomb because i knew i wouldnt be punish by combos and saw will get them into the bomb so they get the combos
first net and second net stagger: to avoid opponents from waking up and get them to a 50/50 situation, this is also another nerfs on cyrax net, which is ridicoulous,
bombs otg: now a lot of avoidable setups, done by rolls or wake attacks dont work because bomb dont otg they way it used to, you can test after the ex bomb, into a midd bomb, you go for the 33 string, if they dont roll out bomb used to otg, but now it doesnt and also with a lot of other moves.
also now cyrax back 2 on combos glitch sometimes on standing opponents and sometimes in the air, in which the second hit dont register and oppoents cant block, there are also other glitches happening to cyrax, on some other moves, but i have said enough already and as you can see cyrax have been the character with most nerfs so far on this game and lot of these nerf is to avoid guaranteed bomb resets, cyrax is not a piece of what he was on first patch, and these changes have affected his performance a lot, i hope they bring him back to was he was, maybe remove the resets, maybe now if you on on a situation in which you get your opponents with a net after dropping a bomb by them and you were hit by a projectile, since you dont have time to teleport and punish the bomb will hit them out of the net for you and you can maybe start a combo string after, now if bomb dont hit on nets to avoid resets on next hotfix, this wil also will hurt cyrax a lot because this scenario happens a lot, i play with a lot of character but cyrax have always being my main, i still believe he is a good characters, but he is not a top tier as people believe he is, he is only a top tier for players who dont know the match up, or dont have enough experience againts him, i could drop cyrax as my main and after so many hour invested on that cyborg and go to my other character, but the simple fact of thinking about it i making me wanting to quit this game and forgot about all this bull crap, nrs really fucked it up bad modifying this game so much so early, some friends are quitting and i will be on the same boat soon.
any changes you know about or i didnt post, feel free to post it here, also you can correct me if i'm wrong on some of these stuff, and just remember most of these changes are to avoid guaranteed bomb setups, but are really hurting the character in other ways,
command grab: command grab was nerfed supposedly to avoid a guaranteed bomb trap, they nerfed the stagger of it and also made like 9 more frames easier to tech out of it so it was 2 nerfs on one move, cyrax dont have low starting combos and all of his strings are punnishable by a ducking poke on start up but the 3,3 which is not hit confirmable, thats why i guess command grab was one of his best tools, now if they made it so easy to tech out of why they also remove the stagger so cyrax cant bomb trap?
net: recovery dont know how much frames, now most of the cast can hit cyrax from long range and have time to block because cyrax cant recover faster to throw nets.
forward back punch: f2 used to be such a nice move in which cyrax could also start another bomb trap, at least this move was legit and dmg wasnt that great starting a bomb trap with it, it had a nice block stunt that left cyrax on frame advantage to do his strings, also this move is too slow why nerfed the properties it had?
ex ragdoll: ex ragdoll had auto correction on it , if on wake up your opponents tried to jump around you the ex ragdoll will correct to side your opponent jump and you could use this and the throw to decide where to place your opponents, this also was another unnecessary nerfs that helped cyrax a bunch, kano still has his auto correction ex up ball, and i dont believe this was a glitch.
buzzaw: we know buzzaw got way better because now is an overhead and recover faster, it was really an useless move only good to start resets, guess what? it was a good move the way it was on close bomb setups, becasue your opponents couldnt punish you while the saw was active and if they got hit by the saw the bomb will pop them up, and you could start your combos from there, now since nrs programers didnt know how to fix the move to not reset the combos they just made bombs not to hit when oppoents were hit by the buzzaw, i used this move a bunch when doing a close bomb because i knew i wouldnt be punish by combos and saw will get them into the bomb so they get the combos
first net and second net stagger: to avoid opponents from waking up and get them to a 50/50 situation, this is also another nerfs on cyrax net, which is ridicoulous,
bombs otg: now a lot of avoidable setups, done by rolls or wake attacks dont work because bomb dont otg they way it used to, you can test after the ex bomb, into a midd bomb, you go for the 33 string, if they dont roll out bomb used to otg, but now it doesnt and also with a lot of other moves.
also now cyrax back 2 on combos glitch sometimes on standing opponents and sometimes in the air, in which the second hit dont register and oppoents cant block, there are also other glitches happening to cyrax, on some other moves, but i have said enough already and as you can see cyrax have been the character with most nerfs so far on this game and lot of these nerf is to avoid guaranteed bomb resets, cyrax is not a piece of what he was on first patch, and these changes have affected his performance a lot, i hope they bring him back to was he was, maybe remove the resets, maybe now if you on on a situation in which you get your opponents with a net after dropping a bomb by them and you were hit by a projectile, since you dont have time to teleport and punish the bomb will hit them out of the net for you and you can maybe start a combo string after, now if bomb dont hit on nets to avoid resets on next hotfix, this wil also will hurt cyrax a lot because this scenario happens a lot, i play with a lot of character but cyrax have always being my main, i still believe he is a good characters, but he is not a top tier as people believe he is, he is only a top tier for players who dont know the match up, or dont have enough experience againts him, i could drop cyrax as my main and after so many hour invested on that cyborg and go to my other character, but the simple fact of thinking about it i making me wanting to quit this game and forgot about all this bull crap, nrs really fucked it up bad modifying this game so much so early, some friends are quitting and i will be on the same boat soon.
any changes you know about or i didnt post, feel free to post it here, also you can correct me if i'm wrong on some of these stuff, and just remember most of these changes are to avoid guaranteed bomb setups, but are really hurting the character in other ways,
'd by the thought of the bigger dogs in the yard finding somewhere else to bark.
