Which Takes More Skill, Zoning or Rushdown?

[SaltShaker]

Any one saying one of these is goddamn foolish

Both take a pretty even amount of skill to execute on a high level

I highly doubt pressuring someone with Kobu Tanya takes the same amount of skill as zoning with any character in this game.

 

[Eddy Wang]

It depends on how strong the character is on the department, if he is good at zoning or rushdown.

Although MK9 Kuh Bawl was both, so he the reason he didn't had bad MU in first place, was because characters strongers against his rushdown, were weaker in zoning, and the ones strong against his zoning were weaker against his rushdown.

But on well balanced characters, either zoning or Rushdown will take a good amount of skill.

 

[Eddy Wang]

I highly doubt pressuring someone with Kobu Tanya takes the same amount of skill as zoning with any character in this game.

In MKX is harder to zone and easier to rushdown, in Injustice and MK9 were much harder to rushdown and easier to zone, just like @Wigy said a while back.

In mkx zoning. Mk9 and injustice by a wide wide margin rushdown

 

[STB Shujinkydink]

Spamming is a strategy of both actually. Spamming bats and runes will give you good zoning. Spamming run cancels will give you good rush down.

You must not play quan if you think it's that easy lol

 

[DrFolmer]

Depends. When I see HQT just stand fullscreen and fire stupid projectiles all day it's not really impressive in anyway. Even Shinnoks and their hellsparks coupled with the super legit pushback on the projectile is frustrating and extremely easy to pull off.

As for rushdown, the very fact that most top players (online casusal players too rofl) have a pocket Lao kinda shows how easy it is to be "rushdown fool"

Watching D'vorah and Johnny doing their thing is sweet, especially given the execution. Watching Gunslinger, Balanced or Sorcerer doing their work is also quite interesting.

Generally zoning is the more difficult of the two IMO

 

[SaltShaker]

In MKX is harder to zone and easier to rushdown, in Injustice and MK9 were much harder to rushdown and easier to zone, just like @Wigy said a while back.

I don't I agree with Injustice at all. I think it was a lot easier to perform rushdown with Batgirl, Bane, Flash, than it was to zone with Zod, Sinestro, Raven.

 

[Eldriken]

Raven.

Heh heh heh heh.

 

[Prinz]

You must not play quan if you think it's that easy lol

I didn't say it's easy, I said spamming is a strategic component of both gameplay styles. I did, however, give Quan examples on purpose.

 

[Eddy Wang]

I don't I agree with Injustice at all. I think it was a lot easier to perform rushdown with Batgirl, Bane, Flash, than it was to zone with Zod, Sinestro, Raven.

Well then again, those rushdown characters were brain dead with safe 50-50s anyway

 

[Dankster Morgan]

Spamming is a strategy of both actually. Spamming bats and runes will give you good zoning. Spamming run cancels will give you good rush down.

I don't really know how you spam run cancels as they require execution. Db1 is a lot easier to repeat effectively than multiple well done SKRCs in quick succession.

 

[SaltShaker]

Heh heh heh heh.

That fact that the Doomsday/Raven MU even existed should remove Injustice from the convo lol.

 

[Eldriken]

That fact that the Doomsday/Raven MU even existed should remove Injustice from the convo lol.

Hahahahaha. I was hoping you would know what I was referring to. <3

 

[Prinz]

I don't really know how you spam run cancels as they require execution. Db1 is a lot easier to repeat effectively than multiple well done SKRCs in quick succession.

What I understand by spamming is repeating certain moves multiple times in a row, regardless of execution skill. For example, spamming NDC's with Kabal was way harder than spamming RC's with Johnny Cage, but they didn't really jail (except standing 2 I think). Liu's block infinite is also a rush-down spamming technique comprised of a particular set of moves in a row etc. Also, I do agree, zoning with Quan in MKX is harder than zoning with Superman or Sinestro in Injustice.

 

[Espio]

That fact that the Doomsday/Raven MU even existed should remove Injustice from the convo lol.

Zod versus Lex and Hawkgirl among others say hello. Bad match ups existing doesn't cancel anything out.

 

[Error404]

In MK X It's about even. In most games zoning is easier because you have more space to work with and 1 mistake from full screen usually won't kill you.

 

[SaltShaker]

Zod versus Lex and Hawkgirl among others say hello. Bad match ups existing doesn't cancel anything out.

Nah that was an inside joke between me and @Eldriken lolol.

 

[SaltShaker]

Damn. The turn of the convo only reminds me how much I miss Injustice lol.

 

[Eldriken]

Damn. The turn of the convo only reminds me how much I miss Injustice lol.

I still play it from time to time. I don't think I'll ever delete it from my PS4. The amount of shit I catch from other people due to Doomsday is insane.

 

[sub_on_dubs]

I highly doubt pressuring someone with Kobu Tanya takes the same amount of skill as zoning with any character in this game.

I totally forgot about her. She's has to be up there with Quan Chi as far as stupidity goes.

 

[RagingRicans]

Depends on the character imo. I respect Dhalsim zoning more ( reads and normal placement) than HQT Predator ( plus frame fast recovery lasers).

How strong a characters specific tool set will correlate how effective they are in neutral.

So, yeah, if a zoner has high recovery fireballs and short limbs it takes a lot more skill to win imo. Vice versa if a rushdown character has heavy mix ups, long reaching normals and plus on block....its safe to say they will have an easier time winning.

 

[Eddy Wang]

"Rekka BOYZ"

 

[Israfel]

I enroll in the prestigious Zoning University but I respect both forms of fighting. Each take an equal amount of skill/reads to be successful.

 

[NY-Shadow]

Rushdown takes more skill hands down. MK players in general since MK9 have become more zoners because its easier to sit back and react to a move than to know a characters moveset so well that you can variate different strings and attacks in millisecond decisions to keep the pressure on someone. Zoning only requires a player to wait, constantly block and respond with projectiles when its safe. Not much skill in that. In your face pressure is where the skill is really at, there is a rhythm to pressuring and a real in depth knowledge of your character's moveset, recovery and startup time. Most of the best players are pressure/offensive players. Even my mother can zone. So get these zoning chumps out of the conversation of trying to legitimize their hesitant-to-engage-low-skill-level-lazy mindset. Zoning is for newbies. Veterans who use zoning as their main strength and tactic are really not good players overall. Truth be told. Anything contrary is nothing more than bullshit.

 

[Schuyler]

It depends on the character. I mean just look at injustice evo 2013 that zonning didn't look that skillful to me. But if your going in with batgirl that rush down doesn't look that skilfully. But I say overall rushdown.

 

[NY-Shadow]

It depends on the character. I mean just look at injustice evo 2013 that zonning didn't look that skillful to me. But if your going in with batgirl that rush down doesn't look that skilfully. But I say overall rushdown.

Batgirl was a special case of OP-broken-pressure and zoning.