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The Tier List According to CD Mani and Coach Steve

Prinz

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People don't hate on Jr. because he talks a lot. That's nonsense. The most popular guys in the community all have huge mouths and big egos. Don't get it twisted. People hate on Jr. because if you want to talk shit about players who are actually placing, you better make a top 8 in a relevant tournament every now and then. If you're relatively not great at the game and you do nothing but hate on it to justify why others are placing and you're not, yeah, people will hate on you.
He mains an S tier character now so he has no excuses. Although...
 

Cossner

King of the Jobbers 2015
Administrator
Yup, I talk shit about players' skills who are constantly placing and claim they're only able to do it because of the game mechanics. I do that all the time, a fact that is reinforced by your inability to dig up a single example of me doing so. I also donwplay people's hard work at a game I claim not to play by saying it has no "footsies" and then going on with arbitrary (and false) definitions of what constitutes footsies... Oh, wait.
You just talk shit of players... period... without ever showing up anywhere ever. Even Madzin shows up and the game was banned there for how knows how long. Dont get me wrong I agree but it's ironic coming from your mouth.

I literally just clicked your statuses and you're talking shit to god knows how many people, I'm not gonna dig through all that diarrhea lol. Also I "downplay people's hard work at a game" like what are you even on about?

Coolwhip, you're the biggest pot in a community full of kettles.

 
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REO

Undead
Please dude. There are multiple characters they didn't mention because they thought it would be better to not talk about the characters they dont know enough to talk about. Better than YOMI talking like they know every character and variation in the game's match ups with their all knowing tier lists while they really just spread general misinformation about the characters they do not play by doing so.

I watched the YOMI stream the other day and saw MIT getting 24% for a bar with Reptile, on a punish, if that is what they are basing characters like that's positions on tier wise its better for them to leave them out completely and not pretend to know everything. I can only imagine how bad and uninspired the Ferra Torr play/experience over at YOMI is but apparently its enough for them to include them in their tier lists.

I much prefer this format where they only talk about the characters they have real experience with in order to not spread misinformation
Wow, people are really dogging hard on Forever King Jr's Ferra / Torr. lol

I mean, if you guys hate on our tier lists so much then just post your own tier lists like CDjr does. We're gonna keep posting them regardless no matter how much you guys don't think we have a clue on what we're talking about.
 

Slymind

Noob
I have nothing to say about this tier list, given my limitations, but, I think the best way to create an somewhat accurate tier list, would be, reuniting at least one specialist for each character of the entire cast(the best of the best), then extensively trade information about the in and outs of the characters and then start listing.
 

Wetdoba

All too easy...
Wow, people are really dogging hard on Forever King Jr's Ferra / Torr. lol

I mean, if you guys hate on our tier lists so much then just post your own tier lists like CDjr does. We're gonna keep posting them regardless no matter how much you guys don't think we have a clue on what we're talking about.
The last I heard of Forever King Jrs Ferra Torr was him saying they were "unviable outside of the Grandmaster match up." I havent seen it since. Mike said DJT plays them too so there might be hope there but I doubt anyone there cares enough about them to play them to the best of their abilities, especially all three variations
 

coolwhip

Noob
You just talk shit of players... period... without ever showing up anywhere ever. Even Madzin shows up and the game was banned there for how knows how long. Dont get me wrong I agree but it's ironic coming from your mouth.

I literally just clicked your statuses and you're talking shit to god knows how many people, I'm not gonna dig through all that diarrhea lol. Also I "downplay people's hard work at a game" like what are you even on about?

Coolwhip, you're the biggest pot in a community full of kettles.

Problem is you're intellectually incapable of differentiating between me talking shit about a player for being an idiot, and talking shit about a player's skills. My statuses are all burying how terrible CD Jr's twitter account is, or how hypocritical Tom is, or whatever. My statuses don't state: "X player who's better than me and actually goes to tournaments sucks."

Prove me otherwise or shut the fuck up.

So yeah sorry, I don't have to show up to tournaments to earn the right to call out something stupid. To better highlight the point, if I say "Cossner, you're a drama queen who dishes it out and can't take it," that has nothing to do with who goes to tournament or you being better or worse at the game. That's just me calling you out on your posts. Now on the other hand, if I say "can't wait to see you make top 8's in MKX majors in 2018," then you can play the "at least I go to tournaments" card.
 
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SM StarGazer

The voice of reason in a Sea of Salt
There's two kinds of people who disagree on Kitana's placing: either Kitana mains, who are known to moan hella, or people who listen blindly to the Kitana mains. Steve and CD clearly stated that Kitana's placing is due to Mournful, which Kitana loyalists don't play. So either play Mournful and prove them wrong, or shut up when you don't know what you're talking about.
Guess I don't exist....Gotta up-play Mournful more..oh wait...

CORRECTION!! By this tier list my Up-playing has worked. @SaltShaker learn from this.
 
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xKhaoTik

The Ignore Button Is Free
There's also people like this, who reply, but you're not sure if they read the post they replied to or not.
I read the post just fine, thanks. That was a cute attempt to throw shade tho.

You came into the thread and basically bashed Kitana players saying we don't know Mournful or we moan and blah. You then proceeded to make it seem you believe she's S Tier simply because CDjr said so. That's a severe case of dick riding bro. Hop off before it goes too far.


Then, when people are asking you why you would believe such a statement, you try to turn the question back on them or just simply avoid it. That's making you look even more bad. Make a claim and then back it up. Simple as that.


I know for a fact that me, @RunwayMafia, @Laos_boy and others use all 3 variations and to hear that Mournful is in the same category as Predator and Quan is going to cause a knee-jerk reaction. I'm not trying to say mournful is bad, its actually very good, but S Tier good is out of the question IMO. I could be wrong, highly doubt it tho.
 

Zoidberg747

My blades will find your heart
CD Jr shits on the game and anyone who beats him in tournament frequently. He also ragequits matches and didn't shake hands at Absolute Battle with the players who beat him. He seems like an ok person but as a competitor he;s obnoxious and deserves to be called out on his childish behavior.

That being said the tier list isnt terrible. There is a few weird things but most of it makes sense.
 

Laos_boy

Meow Hoes
Okay.

Though its been mostly in private but we have been talking about nournful since pre pre pre patch. Most of us even talk it up. Sometimes i overrated but even with all the talk we end up agreeing thats its mid tier at best. Mournful is super good but still gets out classed by top tier.

But lets not forget, black adma needs a low launcher
 
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