The MKX at Combo Breaker 2015 Hype and Updates Thread

[Ugodimak]

I pissed myself from hype!




Kappa

 

[Protagonist_1]

I couldn't have asked for a greater grand finals. Absolutely amazing, and good shot to GGA Dizzy!!!

 

[XMADDOGGX]

#BanEmployees good shit though @GGA Dizzy

 

[Linkuei82]

Do not provoke a GOD!

 

[P0LARCLAW]

What we got out Combo Breaker: nerf Raiden's F12 and Erron Black's punch walk

Really though, gg's to both players that was hype as all hell.

 

[Slymind]

Beautiful, amazing tournament overall, great stuff from everyone, MKX was a blast to watch and could've been even better if it wasn't for those unfortunate stream issues.

 

[sinosleep]

Sonic almost pulled off the reset, still a monster. Props to Dizzy for the double elimination

 

[TheIrishFGCguy]

That was some of the hypest shit I have ever seen. Just wow.

 

[ShotgunInsanity]

GGA Dizzy and Alucard were brining the hype!!!

 

[KNX]

dizzy's defense was clutch. nice job by dizzy.

This post after all that criticism earlier lmao

 

[brizzle]

Raiden was super good before the patch though...its just people didnt start using his optimal combos(AND STILL AREN'T). He can confirm off of f12 and his LRC cancels can be actually combod for more damage(instead of the restand).

He already won a major and could win another(Although Sonic Fox is just looking too good right now).

Im a huge proponent of no nerfs/buffs early but we are a month into the game and some of us have been playing against Raiden's since day one. He needs to be toned down or at the very least have the b2 OS select removed.

And EB has nothing broken? LOL what a joke.

 

[funkdoc]

top players never do optimal shit this early in a new game fyi

hell, it took people MONTHS to start using the DHC glitch in vanilla marvel 3, and that shit was as easy as it gets & way more broken than confirms/OSes in this game

the core issue is that in games this fast-paced, you often have to play by unconscious "flow" rather than conscious thought. combos & setups need to be a 100% automatic response for you - you cannot afford to devote mental energy to these things when you have an opponent to worry about! this is why guys like justin/chris g/pr rog do so well early on - they just stick with simple stuff that's good enough to get by and let their psychology do the rest. over time the specialists come to dominate the game...because the advanced stuff becomes automatic for them.

honestly i wasn't even expecting anyone to use the block/hit OSes at all here, and am hugely impressed that dizzy was doing it in clutch situations.

 

[brizzle]

double post

 

[delbuster]

This post after all that criticism earlier lmao

i criticized his jumps, which i might add, almost lost him the last game. that jump and then superman into the corner ALMOST lost him that entire set, but his defense saved him, then he overpowered sonic fox.

and yeah, losing 9% on combos on your most used move is bad. there's something to be said about only using combos that you will hit, but meh. he dropped a lot of combos missing lightning run cancels, but recovered pretty quickly, so i didn't say much about that.

despite the things i thought he could have done better in, he played amazingly in every other aspect of the game and came out on top. can i not give him props? is that wrong?

 

[Zoidberg747]

And EB has nothing broken? LOL what a joke.

The joke is you assuming I think EB is squeaky clean. The only thing super broken about EB is the fact that he has no gaps in 21211 and can cancel into the command grab at any point. Other than that he is just a ridiculous setplay character.

 

[Landonio]

So that 5v5...

 

[delbuster]

i think arturo sanchez said he couldn't do it b/c he was too busy/swamped (and honestly, after watching his USF4 sets, i can't blame him)

so idk what actually happened to the 5v5

 

[CrimsonShadow]

i think arturo sanchez said he couldn't do it b/c he was too busy/swamped (and honestly, after watching his USF4 sets, i can't blame him)

so idk what actually happened to the 5v5

Yeah that and, the only timeslot they had left to do it was between Top 16 and Top 8 -- and that's when the venue internet was on the fritz.

 

[funkdoc]

I think Ducky is a much stronger player than you're giving him credit for. If this was not his tournament, the next one probably will be.

Netplay has little to do with it, and I think people will see that soon enough.

apologies, i wasn't being specific enough. i am very familiar with ducky's history and know that he's infinitely more than a random online warrior.

my point is more that people like pig have long been waaaaayyyyy too quick to jump to conclusions from online play. even besides the obvious major input lag issues with NRS games, which themselves make it a whole different game...the psychology of casuals is just a whole other world compared to tournament play. i've always been a far stronger tournament player than casuals player, for instance, because i can sense when average-to-good players get scared in tourney. nobody gets scared playing casuals with no money on the line, period.

the higher-ups in the SF scene (including evo staff and name players) always used to say that you can't take online seriously because of these things, but i guess the message got lost somewhere along the line. maybe because the death of arcades made it the only way to play other good people? i'd definitely take netplay over arcades *if* it had GGPO netcode, but given who we're talking about here...no.

 

[funkdoc]

Bullshit. 16 Bit and catwoman

16bit didn't make catwoman good, he made 16bit good. who honestly thinks that character is more than mediocre? she has too many important bad matchups and not enough good ones. THAT'S what determines how good a character is, period.

this is like the 3rd strike fanboys who'd point to the small handful of japanese tourneys where hugo or Q or alex would make top 8, and say that those characters were viable. no, the players were just amazing and also playing in a single-elim format (making it easier for low tier to go far on a string of upsets). tournament results don't determine tiers unless maybe you have 5+ years to work with...anything less and you run into sample size issues.

 

[delbuster]

http://testyourmight.com/threads/mortal-kombat-x-team-tourney-5v5-happening-info-inside.52586/

 

[KNX]

i criticized his jumps, which i might add, almost lost him the last game. that jump and then superman into the corner ALMOST lost him that entire set, but his defense saved him, then he overpowered sonic fox.

and yeah, losing 9% on combos on your most used move is bad. there's something to be said about only using combos that you will hit, but meh. he dropped a lot of combos missing lightning run cancels, but recovered pretty quickly, so i didn't say much about that.

despite the things i thought he could have done better in, he played amazingly in every other aspect of the game and came out on top. can i not give him props? is that wrong?

Of course you can, it was still funny though.

 

[delbuster]

heh. well all love, any char i put in time into i want to see how a top player does w/ them and obviously how well.

 

[brizzle]

The joke is you assuming I think EB is squeaky clean. The only thing super broken about EB is the fact that he has no gaps in 21211 and can cancel into the command grab at any point. Other than that he is just a ridiculous setplay character.

And the only thing broken about raiden is his option select overhead. Other than that, he's a fair top tier. If his F1 string gets nerfed, raiden loses his only pressure string. Hell his lightning strings now give him 20% for 27 hits, while Quan and Erron Black are plus on launcher specials that leads to plus 35%

 

[Zoidberg747]

And the only thing broken about raiden is his option select overhead. Other than that, he's a fair top tier. If his F1 string gets nerfed, raiden loses his only pressure string. his lightning strings now give him 20% for 27 hits.

I agree