General/Other - Takeda Takeda General Discussion Thread

[hayatei]

I never thought about b2 after the njp, I usually like to do b11 then tele cancel

oops i thought you were talking about ronin

 

[Poser Paul]

oops i thought you were talking about ronin

Lmao well since we're talking ronin, what about blade drop after Deep njp then f1 and so forth?

 

[craftycheese]

Has anyone else tried doing b11 after a deep njp?

No. Usually I do B2, 1~tele 114~spear of u want higher damage and b21~tele, 33 punches if I want the hard knockdown.

 

[aieches]

man - does anybody else seem like takeda builds crazy meter more for othrs than for himself. :/

he's too nice this guy

 

[Poser Paul]

No. Usually I do B2, 1~tele 114~spear of u want higher damage and b21~tele, 33 punches if I want the hard knockdown.

I meant a blocked deep njp, my bad

 

[EMPEROR PRYCE]

I meant a blocked deep njp, my bad

No reason to go for b11. Just pressure with f12 2+4 after.

Also, d1 after a deep njp jails. Normally if the opponent gets hit by the d1 its because they're trying to armor out.

 

[Poser Paul]

No reason to go for b11. Just pressure with f12 2+4 after.

Also, d1 after a deep njp jails. Normally if the opponent gets hit by the d1 its because they're trying to armor out.

Want if I want to keep a distance though?

 

[Harlequin969]

Alright real question. Does Takeda just struggle against Kitana? And if not how do I deal with her? I get frametrapped to death, apprently a lot of things beat exbf2s armor. So what exactly are you supposed to do against her?

 

[KHTC Takgillo]

No he doesn t struggle it s a 5-5 IMO except maybe assassin IDK about it because of the new buffs .keep her in b21 range and wait for the fans then duck them also u can use the ground teleport to punish her

 

[Harlequin969]

No he doesn t struggle it s a 5-5 IMO except maybe assassin IDK about it because of the new buffs .keep her in b21 range and wait for the fans then duck them also u can use the ground teleport to punish her

Yeah I was getting bodied by an assassin Kitana and I was playing Ronin. The few times I messed up against them, I ate over 40% meterless consistently cause of sharpen buffs.

 

[SOLEdier]

Alright real question. Does Takeda just struggle against Kitana? And if not how do I deal with her? I get frametrapped to death, apprently a lot of things beat exbf2s armor. So what exactly are you supposed to do against her?

I struggle a lot with Kitana. Especially Assassin. I normally pick SR vs all 3 variations and its not an easy matchup.

 

[EMPEROR PRYCE]

I don't find Kitana to be a tough match up for takeda. Especially in SR. Holding teleport and reacting to fans really messes up Kitanas fullscreen game. You also launch for a full combo if u teleport an IA fan.

She also has to commit to an non-launching wake up because her ex uppercut won't reach after bf2 (u can oki with a meaty mid kunai instead of dashing up)

Remember neutral duck after d1 to avoid d1 into fan and put her at frame disadvantage. Respect her frames and block low and you should be fine.

Also. No jumping.

 

[Harlequin969]

I don't find Kitana to be a tough match up for takeda. Especially in SR. Holding teleport and reacting to fans really messes up Kitanas fullscreen game. You also launch for a full combo if u teleport an IA fan.

She also has to commit to an non-launching wake up because her ex uppercut won't reach after bf2 (u can oki with a meaty mid kunai instead of dashing up)

Remember neutral duck after d1 to avoid d1 into fan and put her at frame disadvantage. Respect her frames and block low and you should be fine.

Also. No jumping.

The few times I fight someone's Kitana I'm always Ronin Takeda which is apprently more difficult. The neutral duck after d1 should help. I haven't gotten the hang of holding TP or using it on reaction which is just more practice to do. Thanks team

 

[Thorfax13]

Heres some takeda gameplay in the beta

 

[EMPEROR PRYCE]

The few times I fight someone's Kitana I'm always Ronin Takeda which is apprently more difficult. The neutral duck after d1 should help. I haven't gotten the hang of holding TP or using it on reaction which is just more practice to do. Thanks team

Yeah I personally wouldn't suggest ronin vs Kitana, but I'm no ronin expert either. Maybe @hayatei or @StealthyMuffin could help in that department.

 

[hayatei]

Yeah I personally wouldn't suggest ronin vs Kitana, but I'm no ronin expert either. Maybe @hayatei or @StealthyMuffin could help in that department.

air teleports is a good tool to beat her air fans but ronin has better tools to deal with that kind of zoning

 

[EMPEROR PRYCE]

air teleports is a good tool to beat her air fans but ronin has better tools to deal with that kind of zoning

Really? I'm assuming ex beam helps a lot then??

 

[hayatei]

Really? I'm assuming ex beam helps a lot then??

blade drop is strong against fireball zoning

 

[dennycascade]

How negative is this fucker's instant NJP? I swear takedas will use this as a counterpoke when I use lackey (or just wake up with it for no reason) and they're always able to just backdash or block when I bait it out.

 

[KHTC Takgillo]

How negative is this fucker's instant NJP? I swear takedas will use this as a counterpoke when I use lackey (or just wake up with it for no reason) and they're always able to just backdash or block when I bait it out.

-8

 

[KingKhrystopher]

How negative is this fucker's instant NJP? I swear takedas will use this as a counterpoke when I use lackey (or just wake up with it for no reason) and they're always able to just backdash or block when I bait it out.

-8 according to frame data.

 

[dennycascade]

That's kind of a dumb risk/reward imo but he needs it I guess

 

[KHTC Takgillo]

That's kind of a dumb risk/reward imo but he needs it I guess

Just bait it and whiff punish it by taking a step back or just not moving you can also block and he ll lose his turn or you can contest his njp and you will win

 

[dennycascade]

Just bait it and whiff punish it by taking a step back or just not moving you can also block and he ll lose his turn or you can contest his njp and you will win

I'll lab it out and see what lackey's options are after a blocked d1 vs his njp. I just hated having to respect it every time and block, ending my turn if the guys smart.

 

[KHTC Takgillo]

I'll lab it out and see what lackey's options are after a blocked d1 vs his njp. I just hated having to respect it every time and block, ending my turn if the guys smart.

Nvm about the NJP yours is the only one slower than Takeda's just do 1