General/Other - Shinnok Shinnok General Discussion Thread

[MsMiharo]

I would like slide for Erron Black. Ex Kunai sounds like a much better idea and move than the punches. If you think him stealing Jason's armor is bad, imagine if he stole Pursuit.

He could steal the punch or grab. Also pursuit could work after Impostor and still allow a 50/50 which would be crazy

 

[Harlequin969]

I've been messing around with Imposter Shinnok for the past few days and I've run into an issue. I've tried to link his F4 into sparks for a combo and I can't do it. Is this move not comboable or is it a problem of timing?

 

[MsMiharo]

I've been messing around with Imposter Shinnok for the past few days and I've run into an issue. I've tried to link his F4 into sparks for a combo and I can't do it. Is this move not comboable or is it a problem of timing?

Timing, it's strict.

 

[GGA Max]

I'm really interested in their design choices for his stolen moves,

Like... should he steal the tool that works best against that character

The best of that characters tools

Choices had to be made... the other thing is that if he stole the best move of each fighter he might not need his other variations.

 

[Harlequin969]

Timing, it's strict.

Where in the animation should I be aiming for? Like before hit, on hit, after hit. A 1 frame link after hit?

 

[MsMiharo]

Where in the animation should I be aiming for? Like before hit, on hit, after hit. A 1 frame link after hit?

On hit. Btu I just do it as a fullhalf circle movement. f(4)db(2)

 

[Harlequin969]

On hit. Btu I just do it as a fullhalf circle movement. f(4)db(2)

Holy balls that's tight. But thanks. I can actually do it now

 

[PlatypusVortex]

I've been messing around with Imposter Shinnok for the past few days and I've run into an issue. I've tried to link his F4 into sparks for a combo and I can't do it. Is this move not comboable or is it a problem of timing?

It's just a really quick sliding motion with both your thumbs. You have to instantly do the f4 db2 in a split second. I do it by sliding my right thumb from 4 to 2 and the same time as the I'm sliding my other thumb from f d b. I had a lot of trouble with it at first until realised the motion to make with your left thumb is really more of a f-b movement than a half circle. You have to slide it f to b while just barely hitting the down input on the way over. It's a little tricky a first but you get used to it.

... However if you're on stick than disregard all that.

 

[Harlequin969]

It's just a really quick sliding motion with both your thumbs. You have to instantly do the f4 db2 in a split second. I do it by sliding my right thumb from 4 to 2 and the same time as the I'm sliding my other thumb from f d b. I had a lot of trouble with it at first until realised the motion to make with your left thumb is really more of a f-b movement than a half circle. You have to slide it f to b while just barely hitting the down input on the way over. It's a little tricky a first but you get used to it.

... However if you're on stick than disregard all that.

It's hard for me to do it at max range, however if I'm standing close to my opponent I can do it pretty reguarly. So maybe it's something about the frames of the attack from hit advantage vs raw? Not sure.

 

[MsMiharo]

It's hard for me to do it at max range, however if I'm standing close to my opponent I can do it pretty reguarly. So maybe it's something about the frames of the attack from hit advantage vs raw? Not sure.

It has to do with the fact that you can do it faster closer since the hit comes faster. Keep in mind that you have to connect the f4 before finishing db2

 

[legion666]

That would be overpowered. Shadow kick from JC etc is fine

I really don't think that would be OP. I mean he gets it in some MU and it doesn't necessarily mean he wins those. Plus most of the cast has vortexes on every character and you don't have to know a different way to combo every character. We have got such things as Summoner's Vortex and Thunder God's corner game/vortex and you call Impostor being able to combo back into mimicry for every character OP?!

 

[MsMiharo]

I really don't think that would be OP. I mean he gets it in some MU and it doesn't necessarily mean he wins those. Plus most of the cast has vortexes on every character and you don't have to know a different way to combo every character. We have got such things as Summoner's Vortex and Thunder God's corner game/vortex and you call Impostor being able to combo back into mimicry for every character OP?!

Just because they're broken doesn't mean shinnok should be though. But it does change match ups a lot. Or should at least. Denying that is strange imo. But it would be super sweet if he stole ex nut punch from JC etc there is no denying that hah. I just don't think it's necessary since he gets almost 40% off a restand vs almost all those he can't vortex

 

[Genei Jin]

i wish shinnok stole cassies flip kick so i can put her ass in the blender.

it sorta sucks that you can't put most of the top tier characters in the vortex (kung jin, raiden, cassie, sonya).

 

[xInfra Deadx]

i wish shinnok stole cassies flip kick so i can put her ass in the blender.

it sorta sucks that you can't put most of the top tier characters in the vortex (kung jin, raiden, cassie, sonya).

Nah...I want that extra 16% of chip for free.

 

[RM Jonnitti]

What the Hell????! )))) LOL ! Was he serious?!)

Yeah dead ass lol. But stabs showed off some good shit so shoutouts to him

 

[Malec]

I am downloading the newest patch atm, sounds really interesting, I am kinda hyped right now for Shinnok

• Shinnok - adjusted several hitboxes to hit more consistently
• Shinnok (Necromancer) - adjusted tracking of Devil's Flick, Devil's Backhand, Summoned Fiend, & Summoned Slam
• Shinnok (Necromancer) - increased damage on Judgment Fist & Judgment Smash by 3
• Shinnok (Necromancer) - Devil's Flick is no -8 on block (up from -4)
• Shinnok (Bone Shaper) - Dark Beam is now a high block and +8 on hit (up from -14)
• Shinnok (Bone Shaper) - opponent can no longer techroll after Scepter Slam
• Shinnok (Bone Shaper) - Deity combo (Towards + BP, BP, throw) can now be 2in1 cancelled on hit

 

[Braindead]

FUUUCKKK why did they make dark beam a highhhhh ((((((

The rest of the buffs are delicious though.

F41xxDF2 is a LOT more annoying now since they can't tech roll. Oh I love you Paulo.

 

[Braindead]

OMG

I JUST THOUGHT OF THIS

Shinnok (Bone Shaper) - Deity combo (Towards + BP, BP, throw) can now be 2in1 cancelled on hit
AND
Shinnok (Bone Shaper) - Dark Beam is now a high block and +8 on hit (up from -14)

WE HAVE A FUCKING +8 RESTAND YAAAAAAAAAAAAAAASSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSS!!!!!!!!!!

 

[GGA Max]

Looks like imposter might not be the only viable variation now

 

[xInfra Deadx]

 

[Braindead]

@LaidbackOne JUST CONFIRMED THAT WE HAVE THAT +8 RESTAND NOWWWWWWWW I'M SO FUCKING HAPPYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYY

 

[True Grave]

Might have to go back to bone shaper now.

 

[Braindead]

S H I N N O K B O Y Z Z Z Z Z Z

 

[DownfouralitY]

Good fucking shit. Very happy with the boneshaper/necromancer buffs

 

[LaidbackOne]

Just some examples. Im sure you guys can do much better. Btw, after the restand you are in b3 range so have fun you sick fucks.
@Braindead