TKB
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When my local classic rock station(known for playing pink Floyd, led zeppelin, Steve Miller Band, The Who, etc.) started playing Creed, I died a little inside.
When my local classic rock station(known for playing pink Floyd, led zeppelin, Steve Miller Band, The Who, etc.) started playing Creed, I died a little inside.
Tell me about it, in miami, rock is more than dead, it doesn't exist. We only have one Rock station BIG 105.9 and it's "classic rock". They play the same tunes every single day and it's not even classic rock in the true sense of the word, it's mostly early 90's grunge and alternative with a few late 70's and 80's hard rock tracks thrown into the mix.
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Well that's false. In fact because music is so easily accessible (so easy to pirate if you want to blame piracy) it means a main source of revenue is through touring. The main issue is that it's not the big record labels that are responsible for making you "famous". The business model has changed, you want to get rich off of music you need to rely on social media. You need that viral youtube video with 10 million+ hits. And instead of making money off of album sales and radio contracts, you make it off of youtube hits.
What you are saying has no longevity, and only supports short term gains. This only allows you to make such a limited amount of money that you cannot survive long term. Paul Mccartney still tours and sells records. He is able to do that because he was able to make money off it early on. The do it yourself approach only gets you so far before you need real dollars to support your touring without sacrificing your quality of life (which serves as your inspiration to create). This is why most bands have a short term life span (10 years or less). And if you spend all your youth working towards something and end up at 30 with nothing to show for it but a couple of tshirts and mp3s, where is the inspiration for others to tread the same water.
You're probably right. But I don't see how that differs much from most other careers. Look up the statistics for how many career changes the average person makes. How many bands never got recognized by the big record labels they needed to become famous? I think you guys are looking at the past with rose tinted glasses, you look at some of the huge names and think that was the norm. There are plenty of bands who struggled and never made it big then, plenty of one hit wonders, etc.
This is what Gene Simmon's is arguing. That rock music as a career is no longer viable, and this forces rock musicians to do something else such as teaching, or composing for other genres. If being a rock musician is no longer a viable career, fewer people will enter the field. Less people entering the field means the slow death of the genre.
Both of you are presenting really great posts and points I'm enjoying reading
Also you should know that as of 2005 venues started charging all upstart bands
Rock is around but barely and they're scavenging for money/ income
I can name you at least 20 bands that started in 2000 and are still making great records today. You guys need to stop living in the past, there are plenty of ways to make money in the music industry now. It may not be as simple as back when Rock originated, but that doesnt mean there isnt a way.
I mean, they thrive, but it's hard. We can't pretend that these people are living comfortably. Bands like Suffocation and Immolation are pretty much legend status in Death Metal, but their members still take breaks from the band for side jobs to actually support their families. Frank had to take a break from touring, Mike Smith left, etc. CD sales used to be the main support for these bands touring.
By thrive I'm talking about the musical output of the genre. I did say there's no money for almost all these types of bands. But that doesn't stop new bands from forming, old bands from reuniting, and great albums from continually being released. It comes from the heart, not from a desire for fame and money.
Oh, well I don't anyone is denying that great music is still being made.
That is kind of what "Rock is Dead" is implying.
I thought it was implying this.
I don't agree with this thoughGene Simmons said:
Sene Gimmons said:
Can u find me any credible source that backs up your claims
Im going to assume you mean the first part and not the Gene Simmons thing.