When MK9 came out, and they had the first big money tourney, he grinded hard and took TYM's money and straight BOUNCED. Quit the game.
I don't find b14 very useful. It has to much push back leaving them well out of the beam. I've found 214 into an orb or ex orbs is much more useful, especially at the end of a juggle.
People aren't used to low crushing moves in NRS games. Maybe there were some of them before, but most of them were bad. F4 is pretty risky too. That said, I'm not sure if it will work against some pokes like Quan's d3 that f'ing anti-airs for crying out loud. Although I'm not sure if it's likely that anyone will try to d3 from d4 range, so...
Thanx will try again
Damn, I honestly didn't think of doing that with VB in thunder god. I'm really slacking in reading some of the Raiden forums. I just realized after anti-air cancel with that and one bar of meter you can get about 38%.
Hm, I think we were discussing it on the first week when talking about meterless AAs. It's not that easy to do I guess and VB's traits (frame data and hitbox) make it quite situational so people aren't making 1st priority out of it, but maybe that's worth looking into.
It's too slow to make anything connect or give you advantage off of anything worthwhile.
Yeah I've been playing with ex-lightning for the last couple weeks or so. Sometimes on knockdown, I'll throw the ex-lightning out, stop it right in front of them, and run at them. At this point I try to react to whatever they do. If it hits, I cancel the run with a njp into full combo for big damage. However, I haven't found a rock solid setup for this and it's way more viable in the corner as opposed to midscreen.
I couldnt get it to combo off NJP, highest possible b14 VB RC so I doubt its possible, and if it is the timing must be insane
The most important part about getting LRC~followup to connect is getting your run out on the first possible frame after the lightning ball startup. What I do is... when I input lightning, I hold the 1 down, then on startup I start holding block (while still holding 1), then tap forward forward. Then I can let go of 1 and block to input the followup... whether it's 2 or f1. This causes the run to come out on the first possible frame and allows you enough time to connect a 2 or f1 in most cases, depending on how high in the air they were when you hit them with b14. The higher in the air they were when b14 hit, the more time you have to connect the follow up.
I think for anything else it doesn't involve cancels, but buffering.
Good call. I should have said buffering, not canceling.
I'm being anal here because for longest time people were using "run cancelling" and it resulted in some people believing that you can cancel stuff with run. Some exhibition-goers (prior to launch) even confirmed that without specifying anything. When the game came out, those who cared quickly realized that you only cancel holdable moves with dashes (which you can then turn into run as per basic rule), but some misconception stayed for a while.
Thanks to everyone for the tips. Ill have to relearn that run buffer now that I have been doing ffblock for so long.I'm being anal here because for longest time people were using "run cancelling" and it resulted in some people believing that you can cancel stuff with run. Some exhibition-goers (prior to launch) even confirmed that without specifying anything. When the game came out, those who cared quickly realized that you only cancel holdable moves with dashes (which you can then turn into run as per basic rule), but some misconception stayed for a while.
That, or it's just me having a misconception about people having misconceptions because the latter aren't bores who would waste time going too much into terminological differences that don't quite matter in the context
Same here. Thanks @Chaosphere for the tips.
Yeah holding block then tapping ff only works when you're buffering a run. You also can't start holding block too early. If you try it out in practice mode you'll see what I'm talking about.
Yeah I think I've got it. Although I cankot fathom how people are able to pull off combos with this consistently
Lots of practice my man. lol