Breakthrough - Raiden Lawd raiden beta changes

[P3irce]

That sounds really weird haha. Great that you're helping the Raiden community out though, appreciate it.

Typo my b. It does not do that haha sorry

 

[P3irce]

Has d3 always been 8 frames?

 

[P3irce]

I'm taking requests as to what to look at if anyone wants to post stuff

 

[DDutchguy]

Has d3 always been 8 frames?

Not sure, 9 frames if I recall correctly. How's the hit advantage?

 

[P3irce]

Not sure, 9 frames if I recall correctly. How's the hit advantage?

Block -9
Hit 6

 

[DDutchguy]

Block -9
Hit 6

Thank you. D3 seems to be pretty much unchanged, which didn't matter much to begin with.

Do you know what the startup on D4 is? It's probably the same but who knows, maybe it's faster.

 

[conqueror]

the gap may have been removed from f12b2 in non TG variations

pls dont be true, its perfect bait tool esp in Displacer

 

[Nivek]

pls dont be true, its perfect bait tool esp in Displacer

Sorry...he needs it!

 

[Nivek]

Also if you can @P3irce try b11 and f2 on kung jin...btw still 15f f2? Also we need recovery for orbs...and lastly are still high?

 

[Cerebru]

Any idea what the change was to f4? Maybe its special cancelable now?! Hmmmm wish beta had practice mode

Wish I could get the beta...

 

[P3irce]

Thank you. D3 seems to be pretty much unchanged, which didn't matter much to begin with.

Do you know what the startup on D4 is? It's probably the same but who knows, maybe it's faster.

Startup 13
Block -4
Hit ~15 or around there

 

[DDutchguy]

Startup 13
Block -4
Hit ~15 or around there

Sounds like it's the same, I expected as much. Thank you again for testing for us!

 

[Creature Feature]

Do Raiden's electricity balls have a faster up time per chance?

 

[P3irce]

Also if you can @P3irce try b11 and f2 on kung jin...btw still 15f f2? Also we need recovery for orbs...and lastly are still high?

Haven't faces a kung Jin yet
F2 still 15 frames

Orbs
Startup 12
Recovery

Above and in orbs
Startup 7

Ex
Startup 16
Recovery

Still look hugh

 

[Wetdoba]

Wait so F4 is special cancellable now or no?

 

[DDutchguy]

Wait so F4 is special cancellable now or no?

Nope, P3irce made a mistake. Understandable since he had never used F4 before and as such didn't know which move it was.

 

[P3irce]

I gotta go review for an anatomy exam . Make a list of things you guys want me to check and I'll try my best to get everything

 

[Wetdoba]

Nope, P3irce made a mistake. Understandable since he had never used F4 before and as such didn't know which move it was.

Oh ok. That actually would have been pretty tight if it was, would have been some new shenanigans for all three variations. So the big things right now are mids got fixed and orbs stay twice as long? Are orbs faster now? Is B14 orb safe on hit now?

 

[DDutchguy]

Oh ok. That actually would have been pretty tight if it was, would have been some new shenanigans for all three variations. So the big things right now are mids got fixed and orbs stay twice as long? Are orbs faster now? Is B14 orb safe on hit now?

The Raiden changes seem to be as follow (I'll probably miss a couple):

- F12 is 0 on block.

- F12B2 in Displacer and Master of Storms no longer has a gap.

- B1 and F2 have improved hitboxes. At least B1 seems to not whiff as much as it used to (probably the most important buff).

- A single orb in Master of Storms now seems to now last twice as long as it used to.

- Unconfirmed, DB1 has less recovery.

 

[Wetdoba]

The Raiden changes seem to be as follow (I'll probably miss a couple):

- F12 is 0 on block.

- F12B2 in Displacer and Master of Storms no longer has a gap.

- B1 and F2 have improved hitboxes. At least B1 seems to not whiff as much as it used to (probably the most important buff).

- A single orb in Master of Storms now seems to now last twice as long as it used to.

- Unconfirmed, DB1 has less recovery.

Damn I missed F12B2 not having a gap that is huge

 

[P3irce]

Oh ok. That actually would have been pretty tight if it was, would have been some new shenanigans for all three variations. So the big things right now are mids got fixed and orbs stay twice as long? Are orbs faster now? Is B14 orb safe on hit now?

Yeah that would of been bizarre if it was cancelable, I'll make a note to check that when I'm back at room. Also I'm assuming you mean mos?

 

[conqueror]

still that ridiculous bf3 whiff recovery is unchanged!!! im not gonna say, make it like MK9 but cut it in half

 

[DDutchguy]

still that ridiculous bf3 recovery is unchanged!!! im not gonna say, make it like MK9 but cut it in half

You sure you're in the right forum pal? Raiden does not have a BF3. I imagine you're talking about Kenshi lol.

Edit: turns out I'm a tool and forgot electric fly exists.

 

[BigMilk]

I actually liked f12 having a gap but changes sound better. Being 0 with an 8f mid to stagger. In theory, Raiden meter build in non TG variations will be so much better.

 

[buyacushun]

Possibly faster recovery on thunder ball projectile almost certain that it is. On a side note I'm going to be having fun timing people out with mos in this new patch

Orb trap hits mid?