He's around A+ after he got buffed. Now he's right next to Scorps, Subby and Reptizil. That is assuming you follow the standard grading method:I main Takeda.. I have used all variations but mainly Shirai Ryu because of the tele. But what do you think? Is Takeda a low tier hero or is he a mid tier? I feel like I'm always working my hardest to defeat my opponent when I use Takeda. I always feel like i'm behind even if I have a slight lead. This just might be me.
@Red Raptor
see - by this standard i would also as A+He's around A+ after he got buffed. Now he's right next to Scorps, Subby and Reptizil. That is assuming you follow the standard grading method:
S
S-
A+
A-
B
#japan
Yeah either is considered correct. Imagine 5 REALLY good fighters that are above the competition and 2 of them have better matchups than the others. In this scenario S and -S would be used. I've seen SF tier lists that look like this:see - by this standard i would also as A+
but i thought we were going by
S Tier (most winning match ups)
Quan Chi
Kung Lao
Tanya
Shinnok
A+ Tier
Predator
Tremor
Cassie
D'Vorah
Johnny Cage
Jax
A Tier
Sonya Blade
Erron Black
Kotal Kahn
Sub-Zero
Scorpion
Kung Jin
Liu Kang
Takeda
Kitana
Reptile
Kano
Raiden
B Tier
Kenshi
Ermac
Mileena
Jacqui
Ferra / Torr
Goro
C Tier (no winning match ups)
Jason
Lasher can get 30% and more off of ex kunai midscreen.Lasher falls in last place due to the fact that he doesn't have safe pressure without losing damage. Which is where SR excels.
IMO if lasher could fully and easily convert from ex kunai, it'd be a lot better. That ONE flaw is what holds him back from being great.
You can get 39%-40% off of 1 Bar with SR.only thing i can get decent damage off is 34%
b21 ex.bf2 njp fjp2(jump forward 2) f12 1+4 bf2
or u can end that with df1 32% ibelieve with that ender
i was talking about lasherYou can get 39%-40% off of 1 Bar with SR.
Starter xx exBF2, B2 xx Close Kunai, F212+4 xx BF1
Ahh,i was talking about lasher
You cant cancel the f212+4 into spear? I tried but cant hit itYou can get 39%-40% off of 1 Bar with SR.
Starter xx exBF2, B2 xx Close Kunai, F212+4 xx BF1
It is possible, its just it the F212+4 has to fully hit at the highest point after the close Kunai.You cant cancel the f212+4 into spear? I tried but cant hit it
Elaborate pleaseLasher can get 30% and more off of ex kunai midscreen.
Tri Kunai, run cancel, B21 Far kunaiElaborate please
you can get 39% for a bar with lasher, but i go for the more consistent 38% with one bar with lasher when i want to go for damage instead of set up, B21 EXBF2 NJP B2 close kunai, F21 BF2Ahh,
For Lasher that seems right for 1 bar. But what I normally do would be...
Starter xx exBF2, nJP, 44 xx df1 or bf2. It will do 34-35% depending if both hit boxes hit on a df1.
B21 ex kunai run up b21 bf4 32%Elaborate please
semi-unblockables are the definition of "braindead", but fine...No. He's far from being low tier, in a nutshell he's incredibly good after those changes, surely can be considered A+ but not braindead like some characters.
The problem with that is that shirai ryu players can't rely on his semi ublockable, since it requires meter, and hell even though it is available in lasher it isn't really worth it since it requires even more meter to get damage off it and lasher has better things to spend meter on, but even in shirai ryu it takes a good deal of planning to get it off.semi-unblockables are the definition of "braindead", but fine...
Prof is right. Takeda can't simply rely on his hard to blockables. They require a lot more set up, than just njp into njp. It's not a restand, its a knockdown and the timing between delayed wake up, short or long, and regular wake up is different. Which means, its a potential waste of a bar and free whiff punish for the opponent.It takes a single knockdown, like when you combo NJP and NJP. If this is "planning" ahead for you, you must have been playing Takeda for quite a while and prove all my points!