Question - Swarm Queen Dealing with jumps and crossovers?

[Zoidberg747]

This something i've been really struggling with. Most people can jump on me for free and I can rarely ever do anything. I know people say to use 1 to beat crossovers but it either trades or gets stuffed almost every time. I tried her d2 but that doesnt work consistently either. I'm assuming i'm messing up the timing but not sure. Any help would be appreciated.

Edit: This applies to all Dvorah variations

 

[Big Pampering]

I often use ex spin just to be safe, but pretty sure my standing 1 works consistent.

 

[MrProfDrPepper]

Well I use the anti air master kenshi so I never have problems personally :/ and the way I anti air is with my specials, which D'Vorah doesnt have, sorry for the pointless post since I can't really help you

 

[Qwark28]

I often use ex spin just to be safe, but pretty sure my standing 1 works consistent.

brah.

 

[FrothyOmen]

@Zoidberg747 weren't you telling people in that dave thread that they don't know what footsies are, yet here you are asking how to antiair? What?

 

[Zoidberg747]

This is in the Dvorah forum guys lol.

@Zoidberg747 weren't you telling people in that dave thread that they don't know what footsies are, yet here you are asking how to antiair? What?

Im not saying anti-airing is impossible or nonexistent, im saying I am having trouble doing it consistently. Big difference.

Apparently I can't post shit now without people coming down my throats.

 

[FrothyOmen]

This is in the Dvorah forum guys lol.

use ex rising karma

 

[Zoidberg747]

I edited the title so it wont confuse people

 

[Zoidberg747]

I often use ex spin just to be safe, but pretty sure my standing 1 works consistent.

When exactly are you doing the 1? I try and do it right when the opponent goes over my head but should I do it later or earlier?

 

[Mr. Mileena]

MB B3 on reaction.

 

[MK_Al]

This is in the Dvorah forum guys lol.



Im not saying anti-airing is impossible or nonexistent, im saying I am having trouble doing it consistently. Big difference.

Apparently I can't post shit now without people coming down my throats.

I think what he's trying to say is space them out rather then AA

 

[Smarrgasm]

D2 and NJP are both insanely good especially for her.

Just gotta find that spacing and the reactions.

 

[FrostiBarrel]

Her uppercut is amazing ,but thats more of a last resort. The best thing is to be spaced out to where you can go in with F1 as soon as they land ,but if you don't feel comfortable with that backdash. If you spaced badly and can't backdash safely uppercut them.

 

[Zoidberg747]

I think what he's trying to say is space them out rather then AA

Thats not anti-airing though. I do that sometimes but other times I am either cornered or can't do that, so I want to know the most consistent AA for my character.

 

[Zoidberg747]

D2 and NJP are both insanely good especially for her.

Just gotta find that spacing and the reactions.

Can you use both of those to beat crossovers consistently?

D2 has worked for me sometimes. Guess I just have to tighten it up a bit. thanks.

 

[FrostiBarrel]

Can you use both of those to beat crossovers consistently?

D2 has worked for me sometimes. Guess I just have to tighten it up a bit. thanks.

I don't know if you've tried this: You're knocked down and your opponent is going to cross you up dash through where they're jumping from.

 

[Zoidberg747]

I don't know if you've tried this: You're knocked down and your opponent is going to cross you up dash through where they're jumping from.

I haven't and that is a really smart idea. Thanks.

 

[Big Pampering]

brah.

lol I thought this was about crossovers in general.

 

[Big Pampering]

When exactly are you doing the 1? I try and do it right when the opponent goes over my head but should I do it later or earlier?

Uhm I dont really know how to explain it, I just do it it as soon as I see the opponent try to crossover and it just works. Just record the Ai doing a crossover and practice it.

 

[Zoidberg747]

Uhm I dont really know how to explain it, I just do it it as soon as I see the opponent try to crossover and it just works. Just record the Ai doing a crossover and practice it.

I did. I think I realized the problem. If its an empty crossover than I can do 1 to stuff it most of the time, but once my training partners got privy to that they started doing a jump attack which stuff the 1 attempt. Thanks for the help anyway, sorry for the confusion.

 

[Big Pampering]

I did. I think I realized the problem. If its an empty crossover than I can do 1 to stuff it most of the time, but once my training partners got privy to that they started doing a jump attack which stuff the 1 attempt. Thanks for the help anyway, sorry for the confusion.

It also depends on how they do the crossover. I am pretty sure you can easily standing 1 anti air crossovers that are timed to also hit crouching opponents. Your standing 1 will probably be stuffed though if they just do an as early as possible crossover punch that only connects on standing opponents.

 

[Zoidberg747]

It also depends on how they do the crossover. I am pretty sure you can easily standing 1 anti air crossovers that are timed to also hit crouching opponents. Your standing 1 will probably be stuffed though if they just do an as early as possible crossover punch that only connects on standing opponents.

Yeah thats the one they were doing.

 

[Lars Lindegren]

If they are doing a cross up you can try dashing under them and your back to neutral with devorahs superior footsie normals.

 

[Lars Lindegren]

Also d4 low profiles for most characters, not sure about devorah though.

 

[Zoidberg747]

Also d4 low profiles for most characters, not sure about devorah though.

Dvorahs d4 does as well.