Did you try blocking? There was always a gap in b321~ex hat, but only Cassie and Reptile could outright punish it. Against other characters, you can actually block after inputting the ex hat so even though their armored moved would come out, you could still block it. Not sure if it's different now or not so if you can please test this.
I've been one of the few voice of reason non Lao-mains in this thread, but sorry, this is 100% a good thing if this is true. Taking a chance trying to get through that shit with a move like Scorpion's EX Takedown only to have it read and blocked ain't fun.
Of course i tried blocking...this was tested with @Noobe
Ur avtually crazy if u think a 12 frame gap is ok
I'm trying out hat trick, cause it's kewwllll.Any hat trick boys out hurr
What, so you want me to sit there and get fucking buttraped for over a third of my life into more oki trying to spend 1 bar of meter and take 15% away from you for doing a blockstring into a special that doesn't jail? Do you even understand how jailing and string gaps work? Do you even play fighting games? You do realize even with 12 frame leeway only a handful of armored launchers can get through that properly? And you have the nerve call ME crazy?
Im not going to argue with you about how retarted it is for me to spend meter for plus frames when u can armor through it for a full combo...who are u anyway? U must be on the player leaderboard or something
Wait till march for cyrax, i bet he'll be soooo"Lowtiercyrax".I get the feeling I was responsible for all these things lol.
On to get the next dumb character nerfed!
Why not just remove his hat?He's been Toptier in mk9 too so fûçk him.
Except you can block and punish, or do the EX hat after a string where there's no gap. It's a very common thing in this game for plus on block EX specials to have gaps when canceled with strings. Quan Chi and Shinnok come to mind.
Not sure if someone pointed this out to you already(too many pages to read lol) but if they would have left it at +10 you would have a d1 check guaranteed and that check is what they seem to be trying to get rid off in the first place.
No now ur forced to block and not even use your resources on ex hat off of your main string.....but im not trying to sit here and argue with anyone. I was merely showing people a change in the beta who may not have tested it... Goodnight
Forced to block, as in, the game blocks for you? If so that's really stupid. If you're just saying you have to bait the reversal then again, Quan and Shinnok come to mind.
No as in u have to do b321 block instead of ex hat since theres no point...dont need a lecture on fighting games...do with the info as u wish...ur welcome. Goodnight
You don't have to. Condition them and make the read, OR cancel it with a string that leaves no gap. What am I missing here?
Alright, with 12 frame leeway, let's compile a list of characters of who can get through B321~EX hat spin with a full combo with this change:
...What? That type of shit is typical in fighting games lol. Spending bar to get enough +frames for a frame trap, still interruptable by armor/invincibility.
Honestly I think a 3% buff to those grounded combos and a 1% buff to his projectiles would be enough. This should be completely possible by reducing the scaling on his regular spin. This shouldnt affect tempest because the regular spin isnt the same. The scaling on tempest spin and the buzzsaw/hat trick spin work the same now, but they should be able to change that without changing tempest spin. Making buzzsaw more dependant on meter will force you to play less buzzsaw-like. His meter should be used for b321combos ex low hat and ex hat setups, ex low hat after 112124, occassional spins after low hat on block to keep your opponent honest and b22 in the corner.
i was wondering about ex low hat having juggle proprieties. cause i'm dirty
It's pretty meh. Gotta guess right 10 times in a round to win basically.
What buffs would you suggest for buzzsaw then? Thats all i can think of honestly.
