General/Other - Ronin Ronin General Discussion Thread

StealthyMuffin said:

Blade Kall is -8 or -9 if BOTH hits get blocked.
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I haven't tested yet but it should still be -9 for specials but if you're trying to punish with a normal then it should be -8 for normals cuz they took out the extra frame for blocking moves low (was -7 for normals before the patch). They didn't fix the random blockstun on it though.

edit: yup just tested. It's -9 still but for normals u have to punish with an 8 frame normal cuz letting go of block takes 1 frame.

Anyone know why sometimes I do a regular blade drop while my opponent is airborne it will do a close blade drop instead of a regular mid one?

SOLEdier said:

Anyone know why sometimes I do a regular blade drop while my opponent is airborne it will do a close blade drop instead of a regular mid one?

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You check your commands? Could be hitting back twice. I used to have this problem also

restands/combos i found

accidentally left off the meterless one, but B112, 21 restands.

Exbf2 pretty much ignores juggle potential. Combined with the restand, any hit leads into a 50% 3 bar hard knockdown.
Broke?

StealthyMuffin said:

Exbf2 pretty much ignore juggle potential. Combined with the restand, any hit leads into a 50% 3 bar hard knockdown.
Broke?

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3 bars for 50% isn't worth it.

Nostalgialite said:

3 bars for 50% isn't worth it.

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Takeda gets 60% damage off 3 bars in ronin!

b21 db1 db1 d1 21 restand is a thing dont know if that was said already

The b2 in Ronin totally got a better vertical hitbox. Used to be a problem.

StealthyMuffin said:

The b2 in Ronin totally got a better vertical hitbox. Used to be a problem.

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B2 seems to not move forward as much as before

i've never had b2 hitting but b21 whiffing pre patch, only 2+4 whiffs

Just playing around with Ronin and here is what I got for mid screen.

Meterless
B21 xx Blade Drop/Call, D1, B11 xx DF1/BF2 - 28%/29%

1 Bar
B21 xx Blade Drop/Call, D1, 21 xx exBF2 rc 44 DF1 - 42%

I don't know why but I seem to have so much trouble hitting the D1 after the normal B2,1 Blade Drop/Call. I can never do it from the ground but can maybe hit it after a JiP about 30-40% of the time. Like I had no problem doing it for a good amount of time last night and then poof, in an instant, I couldn't hit it again for the life of me. Driving me crazy lol.

SnowboardRX said:

I don't know why but I seem to have so much trouble hitting the D1 after the normal B2,1 Blade Drop/Call. I can never do it from the ground but can maybe hit it after a JiP about 30-40% of the time. Like I had no problem doing it for a good amount of time last night and then poof, in an instant, I couldn't hit it again for the life of me. Driving me crazy lol.

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it seems the exact same to me

hayatei said:

it seems the exact same to me

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I'm sure its just a timing issue that I need more work on.

Here is a few practical combos that the new Ronin can do just to update. I only put down midscreens and 1 bar combos. I didn't add anything from the Ultimate Takeda Thread. At least I don't think. If anyone wants me to add anything here just let me know.

Midscreen

B112 - 11 frame mid
b112, f122+4 xx Blade Drop xx Blade Kall (23%)
b112, f122+4 xx Fist Furry (24%)

B21 - 12 frame overhead
b21 xx Blade Drop xx Blade Kall, d1, b11 xx Shirai Ryu Kan (28%)
b21 xx Blade Drop xx Blade Kall, d1, 21 xx Fist Furry (29%)
b21 xx Blade Drop xx Blade Kall, d1, 21 xx Piercing Spark (25%)

1 bar

11 frame mid
b112, f122+4 xx Blade Drop xx exBlade Kall 21 xx Fist Furry (32%)
b112, f122+4 xx Blade Drop xx exBlade Kall 44 xx Shirai Ryu Kan (33%)

12 frame overhead
b21 xx Blade Drop xx Blade Kall, d1, 21 xx exFist Furry rc 21 xx Fist Furry (40%)
b21 xx Blade Drop xx Blade Kall, d1, 21 xx exFist Furry rc 44 xx Shirai Ryu Kan (42%)

b21 xx db1 xx db1, d1, 21 xx EXbf2, rc 21xxEXbf2, NJP, 21xxdf3

This is a 2 bar 50% midscreen combo that has insane corner carry. If you end the combo with the df3 you get a corner restand for more potential damage. I can post a video if anyone wants to.

Here's a tip for the b21 combos in case you weren't aware.

this char is crazy

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f1 2+4 (1hit) quick kall run 21 etc is pretty cool.

What do you do in the corner...?

BornThroughAshes said:

b21 xx db1 xx db1, d1, 21 xx EXbf2, rc 21xxEXbf2, NJP, 21xxdf3

This is a 2 bar 50% midscreen combo that has insane corner carry. If you end the combo with the df3 you get a corner restand for more potential damage. I can post a video if anyone wants to.

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I already know what you're doing in my head but video never hurts.

SOLEdier said:

Here is a few practical combos that the new Ronin can do just to update. I only put down midscreens and 1 bar combos. I didn't add anything from the Ultimate Takeda Thread. At least I don't think. If anyone wants me to add anything here just let me know.

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Thanks i'll try these later!
And I had a question to everyone, what do you normally use to keep the more pressure possible? If you have any tips you want to give me, don't hesitate!
Thanks all!

BadJujube said:

Thanks i'll try these later!
And I had a question to everyone, what do you normally use to keep the more pressure possible? If you have any tips you want to give me, don't hesitate!
Thanks all!

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The pressure is all about the mind games you create with the blade drop/call.

Thanks a lot for your answer, I'll work on that. I'm getting better than when i played him a few months ago, the experience kicking in I think!

BadJujube said:

Thanks a lot for your answer, I'll work on that. I'm getting better than when i played him a few months ago, the experience kicking in I think!

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Don't forget the buffhype ;D

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