General/Other - Scorpion Scorpion General Discussion

Eddy Wang · Jun 29, 2015

Matix218 said:
Is it more reliable than uppercut against a straight jump in? Ive never tried to use b1 as an antiair

only against jump punches, if you find an opponent jump kicking you all the time, then you have to trip guard with ex teleport, or jumpback3 on close ranges.

RiBBz22 · Jun 29, 2015

Man, I really hate doing 1 bar combos online now after the nerfs. Offline is alright, but the 123 in 214 tele, 123 ex tele has issues online on a lot of fronts...pretty annoying tbh.

Matix218 · Jun 29, 2015

RiBBz22 said:
Man, I really hate doing 1 bar combos online now after the nerfs. Offline is alright, but the 123 in 214 tele, 123 ex tele has issues online on a lot of fronts...pretty annoying tbh.

This ^
plus if you use inferno the timing on 214, tele, 21 low demon is much tighter now and if its not just right the demon will whiff.

But I can't lie...I am freaking loving ninjitsu.

Its weird though about the 123 being a pain online because it is literally the easiest thing to time in the world offline

iamShorteh · Jun 29, 2015

When you're using Fire Ball from close range on a blocking & ducking opponent with a low block model/small hitbox (e.g. Sub-Zero) the Fire Ball will go flying over their head instead of hitting them.
A video to demonstrate this issue:

The testing was done after the balance patch of last week (2015-06-23).
I've extensively tested this issue on Hellfire Scorpion, but other characters (e.g. Goro) have similar issues with their high projectiles.

Vagrant · Jun 29, 2015

iamShorteh said:
When you're using Fire Ball from close range on a blocking & ducking opponent with a low block model/small hitbox (e.g. Sub-Zero) the Fire Ball will go flying over their head instead of hitting them..

Letting fireball rip at close range is not recommended. Whether it whiffs on crouch block or not.

Triplswing · Jun 29, 2015

Vagrant said:
Letting fireball rip at close range is not recommended. Whether it whiffs on crouch block or not.

Yeah there's no point stressing over the consistency of something you should never use.

Like Dualist :DOGE

Red Reaper · Jun 29, 2015

Vagrant said:
Letting fireball rip at close range is not recommended. Whether it whiffs on crouch block or not.

EX Fireball is plus. 214 into EX Fireball used to jail for a decent frame trap but I'm sure it's gone now.

OutworldKeith · Jun 29, 2015

Triplswing said:
f3 is the only thing that gives a full combo after a blocked d2. But that's only if it is blocked standing because if it's blocked crouching it has too much pushback and you can only get a bf4. It also doesn't consistently punish weapon-based uppercuts like Kung Lao or Cryo Sub-Zero when blocked at tip range.

That, plus the fact that you can't buffer it, makes it hard to rely on...Wait, whose side am I on!?

Oh well. bf4 is bufferable and a consistent punish. I'll stick with that.

Reversal Takedown is really good. Probably the best use for the move.

I'm referring to F3 as a trip guard punish. It's basically punishing a whiffed jumping normal on its recovery.

khamo15 · Jun 30, 2015

Lambro said:
As for my own thoughts, anyone find something from Ninjutsu to justify its use over Inferno and Hellfire yet? Extra long pokes are great and all but I feel like I'm sorely missing the damage Inferno so lovingly provides whenever I switch variations.

Personally, I feel like I have more moves, which branches out into other things, with Ninjutsu. I feel like the sacrifice from damage to additional moves and more options is a better choice.

Eddy Wang · Jun 30, 2015

khamo15 said:
Personally, I feel like I have more moves, which branches out into other things, with Ninjutsu. I feel like the sacrifice from damage to additional moves and more options is a better choice.

Your answer is 3 months late lol.

Gesture Required Ahead · Jun 30, 2015

Is B121 really cancellable or is the frame data fucking with me?

Triplswing · Jun 30, 2015

Fraud Blank said:
Is B121 really cancellable or is the frame data fucking with me?

It's not. Most likely it was intended to be but they changed it at the last minute and never updated the framedata. There are a few inconsistencies like that in the game.

khamo15 · Jul 1, 2015

Eddy Wang said:
Your answer is 3 months late lol.

hahah i realized, but unfortunately I just found out about this site, and I was scrolling through all the scorpion threads (I main him ninjutsu/hellfire) and I just wanted to comment.

Xzyj · Jul 1, 2015

Was messing a bit in the lab and realised you can start running after you almost ended your dash, that way, Hellfire player can save some stamina, and do b3 fbrc into full combo from fullscreen. And if you use simple run from the start you will not have enough stamina to continue your b3 with full combo.
Maybe it's a common knowledge but i wanted to share if it's not.

Sage Leviathan · Jul 1, 2015

Here's an advanced Scorpion tutorial.

Bombardier777 · Jul 2, 2015

I dunno if im the only one but sometimes i hit db3 and it does mg and the other way around too... Its really annoying and online it happens more often. I have all controler settings thing on off

Bombardier777 · Jul 3, 2015

Bombardier777 said:
I dunno if im the only one but sometimes i hit db3 and it does mg and the other way around too... Its really annoying and online it happens more often. I have all controler settings thing on off

Someone? Please...

Triplswing · Jul 3, 2015

Bombardier777 said:
Someone? Please...

If release check (negative edge) is disabled then the only other answer is you are doing your db notation too early.

Bombardier777 · Jul 3, 2015

Triplswing said:
If release check (negative edge) is disabled then the only other answer is you are doing your db notation too early.

What do u mean ? I tried uploading a video to show you guys but playstation wont let me for some reason...

Triplswing · Jul 4, 2015

Bombardier777 said:
What do u mean ? I tried uploading a video to show you guys but playstation wont let me for some reason...

Negative edge in the control settings. Basically, when you release buttons it has the same effect as pressing the button again. So if you were, for example, doing 214xxTP, you might accidentally get 214xxdb4 because you let go of 4 too late.

Bombardier777 · Jul 4, 2015

Triplswing said:
Negative edge in the control settings. Basically, when you release buttons it has the same effect as pressing the button again. So if you were, for example, doing 214xxTP, you might accidentally get 214xxdb4 because you let go of 4 too late.

I know what that means, thanks for explaining it tho, what i didnt understand was "doing db notation too eary"

Triplswing · Jul 4, 2015

Bombardier777 said:
I know what that means, thanks for explaining it tho, what i didnt understand was "doing db notation too eary"

You're pressing down back before you should.

Bombardier777 · Jul 4, 2015

Triplswing said:
You're pressing down back before you should.

I think thats it... But how do i fix that?

Matix218 · Jul 4, 2015

Bombardier777 said:
I think thats it... But how do i fix that?

Do it later :DOGE

Bombardier777 · Jul 4, 2015

Matix218 said:
Do it later

Lol yeah didnt really thought what i said earlier, my mistake

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