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Mortal Kombat 2011 fight stick information

http://kotaku.com/5713975/designer-makes-an-american-fighting-stick-for-an-american-fighting-game

Be sure to check the link out, it has some large and never before seen pictures of the stick.

Designer Makes an American Fighting Stick for an American Fighting Game.

Much to our surprise, the recently discovered Mortal Kombat fighting stick doesn't come from MadCatz, the company behind the official sticks for a slew of Capcom fighting games. Instead they come from PDP, and the design firm says there's a very American reason for that.

"PDP has been working with WB and the dev team for quite a while to conceptualize a stick just for the new Mortal Kombat," Gerry Block, PDP senior product manager tells Kotaku. "MadCatz did some good work with the Tournament Edition (Street Fighter IV) sticks, but those are Japanese style sticks for a Japanese game. We thought it would be a lot of fun to respond with an American style stick for an American fighting franchise."

As jingoistic as that may sound, Block means that quite literally.

The Mortal Kombat arcade button layout used concave, not convex buttons, something that Block maintains is a cultural decision. The sticks themselves, he says, were baseball bat style, not lollipop style as found with Street Fighter. And the surface upon which the buttons and sticks were attached were angled for the U.S.-designed Mortal Kombat, versus flat for Japan's Street Fighter game.

All of this translates directly into the design of the Mortal Kombat fight stick PDP made, which comes as part of next year's $150 Mortal Kombat Tournament Edition. The stick also has some other interesting touches. The bottom of the stick is overlaid with memory foam wrapped in velvet, making it a bit more comfortable to play with on your lap. There are also little feet jutting from the sides of the stick that won't touch your lap while playing, but will prevent the stick from sliding around when it's on a table.

Finally the casing for the stick is easily opened with a latch, no screwdrivers needed. Inside, gamers will find the stick and buttons' Suzo Happ arcade components protected by a transparent housing. The case also has enough room in it to hold the game box and the cable for the stick. Unfortunately, it looks like you still need to get out the tools to actually tinker with the guts of the stick.

It sounds like there are some interesting additions in the stick's design, things I'd love to see move over to all sticks. I love the notion of not having to mess with tools to gain access to the components and the memory foam bottom sounds like a good design choice too.
 

THTB

Arez | Booya | Riu48 - Rest Easy, Friends
I hope the parts are truly quality. Unscrewing that many screws to get to everything is gonna be irritating.
 

Krayzie

Co-founder
Founder
I'm only getting that one as a collectors item. I'm going to custom make a balltop stick. I cant stand battops.
 

Tim Static

Adminerator
Tim Static said:
I cant stand balltops.
Static-ized. :coffee:

Anywho, concave are only worthwhile playing on a MK cab. That is the only time i prefer them. Convex on sticks. So one of these I am getting is getting modified to my specs. :)
 

Tim Static

Adminerator
MadCatz did some good work with the Tournament Edition (Street Fighter IV) sticks, but those are Japanese style sticks for a Japanese game. We thought it would be a lot of fun to respond with an American style stick for an American fighting franchise.
 
For any of you looking to dual mod it (or have someone else dual mod it) good luck. PDP is not known for common ground boards.
 

Pistol

Noob
I like the direction they took with this. I bet, these are going to sell out and be all over ebay after the game comes out.
 

MKF30

Fujin and Ermac for MK 11
I like the direction they took with this. I bet, these are going to sell out and be all over ebay after the game comes out.
There's also only 20,000 of the Tournament Editions being made which is another reason to jump on them IMO if you're a TRUE MK fan or get woody's for sticks lol. The KE is more of a "fan service" for sure with the sweet art books etc


I'm sure people will buy them just to sell on amazon and ebay for twice the price....
 

MKF30

Fujin and Ermac for MK 11
Not what I've read mr. Sablicious, fuck japanese parts....I'm glad MK9 stick has american parts, it is an american game afterall..

Plus, the guy who makes the Arcade in a box also feels the american parts are great for MK, and even SF with baseball bat tips. Ed Farias is awesome!
 
Not what I've read mr. Sablicious, fuck japanese parts....I'm glad MK9 stick has american parts, it is an american game afterall.
This is where we differ - I'm a gamer, not an [insert jingoistic proclimation] gamer. My interests lay in quality gaming, not where thus is derived from.

Honestly, to champion HAPP parts (stick in particular) over Hori is asinine and demonstrates a distinct lack of understanding of the importance of responsive and accurate command input mechanisms in fighting games.
 

MKF30

Fujin and Ermac for MK 11
A Hori stick on an MK game would fail badly....good luck finding anyone here that actually plays on any MK game via hori or other japanese stick, if you're referring to the baseball bat top...dude majority who play on sticks prefer that. Have you checked out the stick threads?

HAPP isn't crap, it's oldschool american cab parts that worked then and work now for games like MK....

I should re-phrase saying, since MK has good quality sticks behind them, why not do it?

You really think an oldschool MK player would be nearly as hyped if this was a hori or other japanese made stick with different layout and bubble head stick? No way....that's all I'm saying. Perhaps you're a SF player or something so I can see your views but I'm talking in terms of more american arcade games and MK especially where HAPP is fine for a stick like the one that comes with the TE.
 
^ I'm not concerned with what most players want or like. If thus were the issue, we should all just 'go Wii'. I'm talking in objective terms regarding what peripherals are best suited to decent fighting games in general. And if MK2011 is going to be worth it's salt, it will want to get as close to what constitutes a 'decent' fighting game as possible. Gore will only get it so far in this day and age. It won't hold a candle to even the underwhelming, casualized SF4s if that's all it's resting its hope upon.

Americans might like HAPP. Japanese might like Hori.... meh on both their houses. I never even knew the origin of the peripherals when I became familiar with them in the arcades of the 90s. But I did know what peripherals gave the best results, and those 'baseball bat' sticks were definitely not it. This isn't just me talking here either, it's anecdotal too. Some might even go as far as to attribute at least some of the US' relative inferiority in fight-gaming [to the Japanese/Asia] to the equipment they use. The argument is reasonable. After all, there are 330mil Yanks and only 100mil Japs and the US is the biggest game market by a longshot - do the math.
 

MKF30

Fujin and Ermac for MK 11
^ I'm not concerned with what most players want or like. If thus were the issue, we should all just 'go Wii'. I'm talking in objective terms regarding what peripherals are best suited to decent fighting games in general. And if MK2011 is going to be worth it's salt, it will want to get as close to what constitutes a 'decent' fighting game as possible. Gore will only get it so far in this day and age. It won't hold a candle to even the underwhelming, casualized SF4s if that's all it's resting its hope upon.

Americans might like HAPP. Japanese might like Hori.... meh on both their houses. I never even knew the origin of the peripherals when I became familiar with them in the arcades of the 90s. But I did know what peripherals gave the best results, and those 'baseball bat' sticks were definitely not it. This isn't just me talking here either, it's anecdotal too. Some might even go as far as to attribute at least some of the US' relative inferiority in fight-gaming [to the Japanese/Asia] to the equipment they use. The argument is reasonable. After all, there are 330mil Yanks and only 100mil Japs and the US is the biggest game market by a longshot - do the math.
Well, as someone who has a wii and 360 lol I have to say, everyone did follow in their successful footsteps(move/kinect? lol) moving on though, I hear what you're saying. I feel the same way with fighting games, everyone was all hyped for SF4(I'm not one of them, I enjoyed the classic SF like SFHD far more IMO) but that's me...we all have our preferences I suppose.

Overall though since I'm an MK guy, I do enjoy the american made sticks HAPP for majority of their games. I don't know your age but I'm not exactly a younger kid, I grew up during the goldenage of vid games when they first started back to atari days lol so this is my basis as well. Most japanese games had the bubble stick and non-concave buttons, where as most american arcade games had the convave buttons and bat stick.

I'd have to respectfully disagree with you then on the preference style, although I haven't been a stick player for nearly 10 years...I would MUCH rather prefer HAPP buttons and Baseball bat top any day over the bubble...that's me. I know not everyones the same, I just think the bubble sticks are very uncomfortable and the japanese have a tendency to go octo as oppose to full 360 movement, which I can understand for some games but not all(like MK for example) Pac-Man? Sure, MK? Hell no lol.

Plus, as you may or may not know typically speaking most american players tend to have larger hands then japanese thus the bat stick is more appropriate I think and comfy for the common arcade stick player here.

To learn more about what I'm saying, just check out the arcade in a box thread topic I made today actually concerning the maker, guy in charge of them...he sells hundreds of sticks if not thousands by now and has even admitted himself that he prefers the bat stick and that's the majority of requirements when people order them.

So it really is all opinion, the quality of the HAPP stuff is top notch stuff but may not be your preference...not saying the japanese parts are bad, but just don't fit well with american games most of the time. Ed Farias did state however, sometimes you get some "odd" forms filled out for sticks, such as american concaved buttons HAPP and an occassional japanese bubble stick(which is definitely odd lol)for the mainstream fighter whether it's SF, MK, KI whatever. Speaking of which I forgot the layout for KI...lol I think I'll look it up for curiousity.
 

chrisofrays

Fish can hear you thinkin just before you sneeze
hey all these seemed like the best place to ask. does anyone know how well japanese style fight sticks work with 2d MK games? i got a madkatz TE and would like to use it for MK.
cheers! :fight:
 

MKF30

Fujin and Ermac for MK 11
Personally, I think a Japanese stick on an MK game would suck. I've had older sticks with a bubble/ball top and I hated it for MK, plus if the button layout at least IMO isn't like UMK3's then that sucks. I went down to my local arcade other day and they had MK4, man I have to say I miss that layout lol it worked like a gem, brought me back....baseball bat top, UMK3 layout etc

But Try it out man, I heard the MadCatz SF4 joystick is good, but I have no idea how it would be for MK....I would probably hate it but that's me.

I'm sure other guys here will chime in. If you're concerned though, I'd get the Tournament Edition, get the MK stick try both out if you find yourself hating the MK TE Happ Stick then sell it online(I'm sure you'll bank big on it) and keep the Madcatz, but if you like it then you play on the TE MK stick :)

There's also arcadeinabox too, I plan on ordering a stick from there in a few months but guys on here have it and say it's great. They can make you kustom sticks, ANYTHING you want, an ylayout.
 

chrisofrays

Fish can hear you thinkin just before you sneeze
cheers man, i guess with the joystick i could probably adapt easily as mk seems to have similar inputs to Street fighter. my main concern is the button layout as mk has a block button, but saying that so does soul calibre so it might be alright. i have been considering the Tournament Edition MK but id like to be able to use it for other fighting games, it does look pretty sick though. ive heard of arcadeinabox, duno if they would send one all the way to england lol, il check their website.

this Madkatz TE mod looks pretty cool
http://img513.imageshack.us/img513/6961/image14ae.jpg